The other photo I sent to Brady. Had to post it from my AOL storage. For some reason I could not get it to go with the browse button from my computer. Hopefully a closer look. To answer a few questions - do not know the Breeder, and it was a two year old this past spring. As Brady mentioned the hi is softer orangy red. The white on this koi makes the hi look more intense in color depending on the lighting and viewpoint.
