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luke frisbee · 03-23-2008

I have to explain why I feel that the thread over there about where people got most of their knowledge about koi is not on target....

" I larned most of what I know about koi from carp fishin'."

While the above might sound gay, think about it. Your basic level college biology class taught you most of what you know about koi keeping. You just adjusted it to a specific organism.

Was it Plato that determined that man already had the knowledge within himself, and the right set of conditions needed to occur for the information to become exposed...this is very true about the smoke and mirrors needed to develop the appreciation for Koi "Beauty" that the masters recognize.
So we do not gain knowledge...we have it.
listen i don't believe that crap, but I do believe we developed most of our knowledge of koi outside of any koi influence.
This occurs to varying degrees... the pencil pushers probably develop more "koi Knowledge" within Koi Circles, whereas most people that have a hobby or profession within the life sciences developed almost all their knowledge "of koi" outside of koi circles.
What's funny is that I see so many koi experts that are virtually clueess except for what they were told within the hobby. And that is all they believe. these people are wonderful people, but are like religious zealots that are plain dumb about every other religion. They have been indoctrinated into the life sciences through koi which is bass ackwards. They become zealots , ecause it is more comfortable to accept what they hear and do not search for whether it is the stone cold truth or not.
Most of the time the zealot is right. Some of the time they even know why they are right. But often they feel as though everything they have "learned" is right. They don't have the knowledge base to properly question all aspects of the hobby.
Some have the money to be baptized by Billy Graham, others can afford to kiss the Pope's ring. Other's can afford to go walk with the Dali lama on a cliff side trail... and they can remember what their leader told them...but it doesn't mean they are more spiritual than before.It just means within that within the organization they have done something....

ONE area of knowledge that is "learned" within the Koi Circle, and is best learned within the Koi Circles, is Koi Appreciation...a melding of art, nature, and zen.
But there again the more that is developed outside of the Koi Circle the more it can be developed within the koi hobby.

Nishikigoi Appreciation your best Source JAPAN. (however even that can be modified by societal and personal proclivities.)

ALL the other "Stuff" from medicines to water movement is based in knowledge OUTSIDE the hobby...completely outside. Those that don't believe that get their knowledge form within the hobby.

03-23-2008	#1 (permalink)
luke frisbee Oyagoi Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,451	Too controversial to keep in the Knowledge thread I have to explain why I feel that the thread over there about where people got most of their knowledge about koi is not on target.... " I larned most of what I know about koi from carp fishin'." While the above might sound gay, think about it. Your basic level college biology class taught you most of what you know about koi keeping. You just adjusted it to a specific organism. Was it Plato that determined that man already had the knowledge within himself, and the right set of conditions needed to occur for the information to become exposed...this is very true about the smoke and mirrors needed to develop the appreciation for Koi "Beauty" that the masters recognize. So we do not gain knowledge...we have it. listen i don't believe that crap, but I do believe we developed most of our knowledge of koi outside of any koi influence. This occurs to varying degrees... the pencil pushers probably develop more "koi Knowledge" within Koi Circles, whereas most people that have a hobby or profession within the life sciences developed almost all their knowledge "of koi" outside of koi circles. What's funny is that I see so many koi experts that are virtually clueess except for what they were told within the hobby. And that is all they believe. these people are wonderful people, but are like religious zealots that are plain dumb about every other religion. They have been indoctrinated into the life sciences through koi which is bass ackwards. They become zealots , ecause it is more comfortable to accept what they hear and do not search for whether it is the stone cold truth or not. Most of the time the zealot is right. Some of the time they even know why they are right. But often they feel as though everything they have "learned" is right. They don't have the knowledge base to properly question all aspects of the hobby. Some have the money to be baptized by Billy Graham, others can afford to kiss the Pope's ring. Other's can afford to go walk with the Dali lama on a cliff side trail... and they can remember what their leader told them...but it doesn't mean they are more spiritual than before.It just means within that within the organization they have done something.... ONE area of knowledge that is "learned" within the Koi Circle, and is best learned within the Koi Circles, is Koi Appreciation...a melding of art, nature, and zen. But there again the more that is developed outside of the Koi Circle the more it can be developed within the koi hobby. Nishikigoi Appreciation your best Source JAPAN. (however even that can be modified by societal and personal proclivities.) ALL the other "Stuff" from medicines to water movement is based in knowledge OUTSIDE the hobby...completely outside. Those that don't believe that get their knowledge form within the hobby.