[Lam Nguyen]

Quote: Originally Posted by l113892 I'm still confused because Matsunosuke is a magoi based line. Are you making a distinction because the "magoi" was used much later than Sakai's original Matsunosuke? In other words, does it have to do with how many generations back you have to go to trace the magoi breeding?

I, too, am confused about the magoi line versus the matsunosuke line. My understanding of the concept is that ALL nishikigoi came from magoi and that the matsunosuke line was introduced recently by Toshio Sakai himself. Therefore, the matsunosuke line does have magoi influence. What I am curious to know is how did he derive this matsunosuke line, a line in which the koi seem to grow so much length that they are like "toothpicks" during their early years? Also, if this Matsunosuke line is so famous, then why aren't other breeders using it? Again, curious mind seeking knowledge!