Maurice at koi-UK breeds domestic Cha in England from this breeders stock and is doing quite remarkably. I think everyone agrees that this is the bloodline for cha that you want.
Maurice gets a few of what I call honey cinnamon, that I would dearly love to add to my collection as well. I have also seen a few creme colored individuals that are quite unique.
My Koi Kichi over the decades bought his number 1 green tategoi a few years back and was very impressive. Pebbles definetely could be the poster child for his efforts
