[Ethan25]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori I wouldnt add the tail to the length, your focus should be the body ratio from tip of nose to the beginning of the tail.

So, from tip of nose to beginning of tail, what type of headlength are we looking for? Still 5? It'd seem that'd be a skinny odd looking koi in that case. Aren't most nice koi's caudal fins around 1 headlength?