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Old 05-25-2004   #17 (permalink)
dick benbow
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Thank-you Mike for your encouragement! If there's one thing I've learned over the years is that there is theory and then there is application. some time theory gets it right, sometimes it doesn't.

Having the knowledge as Jim Does ( remember Jim was fascinated with asagi long before I was) and having the access to breeders and other japanese thru his ZNA connections, gives him alot of back ground info.

But the bottom line is if i get some good young from this pairing then i have something to work with. The female's red is too much for my taste.
the male is alittle less than what I think is correct. I'm hopeful I will produce some females with less red that I can work with.

what I learned from my shiros that I won with in a local show over japanese fish is mom has too much black, and dad not enough. a small percentage of thier spawn come out with a 60/40 mix of white to black.
I'm hopefull, this will prove thru with the amount of red with the asagis.
the trouble with this variety is that it will take me THREE YEARS to find out what my best ones scalation will be. narumi or reverse or maybe something else from the background heredity. ( gee I should have started on this as a young man! (lol)
So as everything with koi keeeping it's a journey
and I'm going to enjoy the ups and downs as I work with the kind of koi I love.
I have sanke and kohaku to breed this year again. to me I think sanke are the most difficult to get the black right. I have a new female this year.
she has one piece of red on her and two pieces of black ands the white is
stunning. I get tickled when people look at the kohakus. both the male and female are 3 steps and the comments always something to the effect that i'm trying to spawn for just 3 steps! one year I used a tancho kohaku male and got the same comments for tanchos. But from what theory and practicle appilication has taught me is you get a mix of koi from tancho to all the steps with this effort. I have heard ( unsubstantiated) that there is a breeder in hamamatsue who gets a predominance of tanchos from his spawns in sanke and kohaku and he has learned something to make it happen.
watching asagi's grow would be like to watching the grass do it's thing.
I may have to slip in a few others to keep you all from getting bored!
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