[Bern]

Hi

Both of the ones Mike posted are what I believe to be the Kawari based Goshiki i.e. black skinned. I noted once in a mail by JR that he considered the asagi crosses the epitome of good Goshiki but I can't relate that to the blue skinned examples that I generally see in Europe. However, I saw a version at a breeder called Hosokai that would rock anybodies boat and can only assume that it was the type and standard that JR was refering to. However, it could be said of the example that I saw that it had a white skin underlying the blue reticulation and the hi patches.

With reference to Asagi etc, most Nishikigoi originated from Asagi somewhere down the line. The reason I was given for the higher prized white skins was that this was progress, blue skins were seen as a retrograde step in terms of refinement.

The Miya I mentioned is known just by that name. I've not been able to find him in the Shinkokai book, but its not Miyatora or Miyaishi etc. I'll see if I can get more info on him.

As for a white skinned Goshiki here's one that I once owned and the root cause of any knowledge I possess about this variety.

rgds BERN