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where did you buy this koi, in indonesia? which dealer? wouldn't the dealer know which breeder it came from? My guess, from the description you gave, is that the kois are not so far from its magoi origin.
60cm for a sansai though, truth be told, is not out of the ordinary these days even for gosanke. i have a momotaro kohaku, not one of their first class koi i'm afraid, that's barely nisai and already more than 60cm.
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