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Old 01-24-2005   #7 (permalink)
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Luke Frisbee wrotte: Diego, I don't understand the "..." slight?

Beg your pardon, wasn't intentional.

"Most of us have knowledge of such practices and if you become a little more knowledgeable you will find instances where it is discussed in print."

You are right, I have a whole lot to learn. However, this is a thorny issue and won't easily take for granted that breeders use on purpose such an inappropriate procedure. Maybe is my poor english, but from what you said it sounds to me as if it was a rather general practice, and that is hard to admit whithout proofs.
Can you provide at least the references of the articles where this subject has been discussed? I would acknowledge if you can send it by private mail, in case you don't want to do it in the message board.
All the best,
Diego

As to breeders using flawed koi as breeders. It is not open for discussion. Most of us have knowledge of such practices and if you become a little more knowledgeable you will find instances where it is discussed in print. it is not the climate of this board to mention particular breeders using such fish and I will not. I will ask that you look at the other posts above yours and note that those people intimate that is does happen.
And as to Waddy's mentioning breeding pairs being responsible for having "quality spawns". Often those pairs are flawed, sometimes obviously gentically. A breeder's primary concern is money. if the pair spawn good-looking genetically defective offspring then that is consider "quality". That is not responsible breeding, that is all about the money. And the reason it is difficult to find a pair that produce good offspring has something to do with the continued breeding of genetically defective breeders just to get a quality LOOKING spawn.
I would much more like to see breeders try to reduce the number of defects in the general population. I'm not attcking the breeders, I am questioning the acceptance of a practice that continues to undermine the genetic quality of the next generation of koi.[/quote]
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