That is sad state of affairs B.Scott. But understandable. Here in Colorado, we do not have as many dealers as you, but there are maybe 5 or so within 2 hours. Not a one have I bought koi from, for the same reasons as you. Their "level" just isn't there, nor is their motivation. They are catering to a different "crowd". So I have to go to California, or England, to get the level of help I need. But with the internet, so many things are possible. And there is always Japan to buy koi from