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Old 05-06-2005   #66 (permalink)
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hey i was sposed to be on a break!!!!ha.

yeah maurice is right about that but i think you realise your stumbling through it as you go..i remember thinking sheez what? youve got the machinery in already????????????

i thought id told you that your better paying for one dug pond with air than two without! sometimes it seems that half of what ive told you has gone to waste
anyway well still, not all is lost.

i assume you havent got the funds to cover such power bills and new machinery..if i was totally confident in the local fishy economics, your ability and markets then id say get a loan.. but i know nothing of it around there. so i cant say how viable it would be.

so that you dont ever go hungry, get some rabbits too and shoot some birds that try and eat your fish. dont let them go to waste. if youve got no money for the right things, you can save in someplaces.
what you might do is tackle the farm slowly, building up numbers and market and experience. its not like your totally green to it. a three year plan is better than getting yourself worrying. i think you did mention you would have a five year plan so dont rush anymore into things without knowing whats best.

you can most likely follow a formula and do ok and not go broke right away.
for example you can stock at half stockings and keep a day job and do an hour in the morning and 2 in the arvo till harvests. id suggest you may need to do this into the second winter and have a more certain chance at becoming viable after the fist few crops of the next season or the one after that even.
so dont throw in the day job just yet, i wouldnt suggest anyone do that unless theyve been around for five years..watching and analysing..unless they
know what theyre doing exactly and still have the financial backing to take them there..
remember winter time is easy enough to go broke if your just hoping to finance of the farm product. cold is no growth and no breedings. so you must one day make enough in summer to keep sales going strong all year or make plenty enough in summer. i like constant cash flows better.
heres what you do, if you cant spend on equipment and running..
have one running with air, one without or two running with some split air and the third without. itll show you the differences.
those two stocked up at 3/4 what the other farmers are doing and the other at half of that. dont get it wrong all together, you can do ok with no aeration.. you just need way more work and ponds. thats why i said just build a bank of big ponds and not 16 little ones. 16 seperate holes in the ground sucks.

dont skimp on fertilisers or liming, but dont overdo the fertilising. dont over feed either. thisll avoid total crashes and reduce o2 useage.
see why air is so good?

you need to choose a line that will keep your fish alive and growing fast other than trying to get far too many and ahve them die off.

i was concerenbd youd put those 4 inchers in the wrong wall, i think that was cause you settled against the effluent pond and just wanted more surface area..though those 4 inch pipes arent a complete waste, better if they didnt just go one foot deep into the side too, but anyway you will use them one day. elbow em up and run overflows or cap if you can fill cheaply, doesnt it rain there??? that might save you a hundered or so bucks but as you can see itys not reliable or something to count on when farming.

you treat each pond seperatley yes, i remember you saying you would recirc the whole lot...fine for growouts only. not for fry ponds and full control over dates and blooms.
who knows you might have them all as grow outs later.
but that doesnt mean you cant use gravity to help you now, least your having a go and got something.
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