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Old 11-23-2005   #18 (permalink)
junglegeorge12
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Hold there partner, let's take our time and ifnd out what is exactly the best way to go about it. I have some emails in to some experts and am waiting for a response, hopefully I will get one within a couple days. Also, some shrimp or crayfish type animals have large amouts of astaxanthin in them, or yellow pigment. We don't want that. We want to find sources of red.

for recreating the algae environment, is what mud ponds are for. Remember that when people say 'soil conditions in Japan' it is not just the pond bottom affected. In fact most sources say the ond bottoms in breeder's facilities are depleted. But the soil in the ground determines the source water content. So it is more the water content that creates the right environment. I am looking also into shrimp variety options that will contain large amounts of erythrin vs astaxanthin. Give me some time, and maybe someone else already has some knowledge or knows someone who can give some quality input into this area?

Here are a few links to some related articles, just the teasers really-I have not found the ones that really helped me earlier. I will keep looking but fell asleep last night and have been working hard all day on a new mud pond going in. The hyrdroponic plant thing I would not do. I have heard too many people say that to make a good plant environment means an adverse koi envrionment and vice versa. The shrimp hatchery, is a must do. Just have to find out which ones are best. I have contacted a cobalt sulfate and carbonate distributor and science group for a recommendation. They have information on their site about how much (ppm) should be in the water and soil for enhancing red pigment, and for plant and animla uptake, so they obviously know the subject. I hope they respond soon.

The miners actually follow what they call 'the trail of blood' to find cobalt. It is red and purple a crystal called erythrite (contains erythrin via a certain sulfate form of cobalt) to find the cobalt mineral deposits. Cobalt is actually a metal. According to one article it has the highest melting point of any other mineral. It is used to color ceramics, and to make glass tint. Let's see if we can gather enough info to put something really helpful together.
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