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Old 01-28-2006   #6 (permalink)
junglegeorge12
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Wow, I am telling you there is a huge market for WWf style koichat. we can have backyard slamfest wrestling matches at the US shows behind the tenst and post the videos of it on a web site. We have to start a WWF koi chat board.

Val, one concern I have, and I mean no disrespect is an obvious point not meant to demean you in any way. Your comment "I have always presented myself as a fast-learning newbie who has a pretty good nose for BS, and when I notice something that stinks, I point it out."Val is kind of self contradictory.

If you are a newbie then that precludes you from being able to accurately identify where or why the real BS is coming from. I have noticed you have been flat wrong by following your 'nose' quite often. I attribute it to you being a well intentioned but rather gullible newbie in some respects. Some times silence and watching are the better part of valor and the best way to develop that 'nose' you are referring to. We are both very intelligent, so taking a word jab at someone for either you or I is easy. You have an above average IQ, so do I, yet it took me years to post in areas you now post as an authority in after months. I am not trying to belittle you but there are alot of politics and business games on these boards you have yet to find out about and really see through. You have no idea who has been whose buddy for decades etc etc.

I respect your intelligence, but your youthful veal is causing you to jump to wrong conclusions and destroy relationships and your own public standing rather repeatedly. Most of the time it is simply out of ignorance of all the relevant facts, and perhaps a little presumption tossed in as well. I wish you had been around during the old days, I think you would see things quite differently and have more friends and less enemies if you had been.

Take some friendly advice and justr relax, you are welcome here and are elarning at an alraming rate, jsut do not mistake that for knowing more than folks who have been around for years. In most chat threads issues are discussed from one angle and with one set of concerns. Due to that the knowledge gleaned is slanted towards that end. It kind of leaves gaps in kowledge and comprehensive understanding of subjects. Such as how a breeder should deal with a pond situation vs how a hobbiest should think, two very different ballgames that only appear to be the same on the surface. So you knowledge is not 'bad', just incomplete.

Take some time before jumping on a particular bandwagon or selling out to a certain ideaology or social position with folks. Not all the folks who appear in chat to the 'big guns' who are 'respected' really are. Often they ar repsectd in some ways, but not others and have reputations inside the industry that are not as rosey as a forum may lead you to believe, for varieties of reasons. Try to chill some, relax, ask more questions, get to know who some of the different folks are. Your zeal is inspiring, but your presumptuous shotgun approach is tiring.
If you really knew Newt you would know he is not a bad guy. Easy to make friends with and not snooty and will share valuable info with you for the asking. Others are far more snooty, and really know about the same and even less, believe it or not. You have to remember, verbal posting and linguistic skill is not real koi knowledge.

When I first got to koi chats I made some of the same presumtion errors. It took years of watching and seeing folks change their whole line on things to realize who was really what and who could be trusted. I also watched how they came by their supposedly 'deep knowledge'(and how nasty they be along the way) they now pass on as though they are gurus, really they are cutting and pasting out of old articles and books that were hot chat topics years ago, and presenting it to you as though they were perhaps the authors. Ironically, it is folks they often have you disrespecting that were the original authors and inspiration in those areas, but you don't even know that.

I like sharing with everyone in here, but not everyone is everything they have you thinking they are, and not everyone they have you thinking is 'messed up' or a 'joke', is. Take some time bro, don't divide yourself from good folks too quickly, you may regret it later. But then, knowing them, they will forgive you and be friends with you later even if you beanbrain out on them now.

Everyone knows luke is a worthless old drunk, and everyone knows tomorrow he will forget I said that and chat with me like nothing. Get to know folks val.
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