[Rowly]

Quote: Originally Posted by KoiCop sounds like you're putting in one of those AquaScape-type underfiltered, rock and plant infested, insufficiently deep water features that are guaranteed to kill koi even in temperate zones. You're in Canada, dude, and koi are not cold water fish -- so buy the cheap, disposable kind, 'cause those that don't immediately succumb to pathogens, parasites and predators will turn into koisicles come winter. Thought we'd covered all those bases last time you showed up here? Here's the URL for North American Water Garden Society: http://www.nawgs.com/ Maybe they can help with what you've got in mind?

Don, I'm sure your correct......just starting with the koi experience and this is the initial start and introduction to a few cheap japanese and butterfly koi for a newbee. I have designed the pond so it will be 3 feet deep and I will use a little bubblier throughout the winter in the shallower shelf for release of those gases, etc. in the small open water area. I realize this forum is for the true koi hobbist and I didn't mean to insult anyone's integrity but I'm just starting and making peace with my spouse for our enjoyment. In the 4 larger ponds I will construct they will be more koi friendly and skillfully designed from your forum helpful comments. Sorry for not being experienced and skilled as many have become over their years as they developed and learned from their true dedicated hobby. Thanks

Rowly