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technical correction- matsunosuke is only one strain that sakai brothers breed. They also produce sanke that look very different than their original line. Toshio Sakai never rests- not for a minute. Even he considers some of his original fish "old school". It is true that most of his efforts are to extract the best of his famous fish and the body is something he has no great wish to preserve, the size- yes, but the shape? Only of the fish will eventually fill out and produce a massive girth. But since genes for color are linked with other traits, this is a slow process.
In the south you have Saki of Hiroshima ( unrelated) and his sanke are very different, and very beautiful. I'm sure there is a matsunosuke in the wood pile for size but these fish are truly his own line/strain and very different in shape.
And then we have Momotaro. All Matsunosuke based fish and in my opinion, not yet his own strain. But soon they will be as he produces generations of an isolated gene pool.
Personally my favorite sanke are produced by Dainichi. But these beauties will never be as large as Toshio Sakai's fish. Still they have that beautiful Dainichi beni on a full body and they beautiful large round face- very nice.
Back on topic! These body shapes are about strains. And I don't think that is the same thing as historical foundation stock? Unless you want to see the foundation influence as MACRO or historical and the strain evolutions as MICRO or transitory in nature? Time will tell I guess?
JR
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