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Guys this is always a touchy subject but lets not run people off. First of all, not everyone on this board is an expert. We have plenty of people that lurk and never post as they are afraid they will get beat up. I think the approach being employed at KV is one that suits well for them. Lets face it, most of the people that buy rock bottoms are new to the hobby. How would you like if you were a newbie and spent 30k on a koi pond and were then told you were ripped off because the rocks are going to kill your koi? You would be mad, ashamed maybe, and would probably then be disgusted and fill in your pond and leave the hobby. I don't think we want people to leave the hobby. So how do you handle people who already have rocks? When done the KV way you do it through educating them on how to clean the rocks etc and most people end up removing them after they find out what is involved. I think that is better then the alternative of them giving up. Now lets say someone comes in and hasn't built that rock pond yet. I'd tell them not to do it if they really want koi. Save them a lot of work and heartache. I guess what I'm saying is that when having a conversation such as this one its fine to bash the builders but we should also consider that some of the owners of these ponds who were duped into buying one don't really need to get hit on the head with the same rocks they have on the bottom of their pond by us. REC my good friend-Come on back. You have been assett to this board by helping many folks with their koi health related problems. I appreciate it and so do the people you have helped.
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