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Old 12-07-2006   #26 (permalink)
Nancy M.
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Originally Posted by koicluboftheair View Post
Nancy,
There are no personal attacks on you in this original mention of you and your husband. If there is point it out to me. It is rather a defense of those that would show in San Diego and elsewhere against loose interpretations of rules or guidelines where there seems actually not to be much of anything written. The San Diego Show will be a great one and as in many other instances it sets the standard for others. This standard includes cash awards and four Shinkoikai judges. I want to know how it impacts the rest of the clubs and what messages and lessons can be learned.

This was the original quote:
"Indeed, showing koi that have won cash awards is an issue I'm inquiring about. Just as pond builders like koiczar have been questioned as to his status as a pro or non-pro there will doubtlessly be others. Not only are the likes of Frank and NancyM effected, but the Central Florida Show in Orlando is using SKA's ZNA judging standard, which might be particularly sensitive to who can enter a show based on their interpretation of pro versus non-pro.

Another aspect that I questioned, which has not be commented on as of yet is the standard by which the show will be judged separate from the later impact of the prize money. A politically incorrect way of asking could be will the show have a high or low judging standard considering the diversity of judging standards available tank side."
John
Yes the San Diego show is a very good show, however it does not set any standard for any other clubs show. As for the judging standard, why would you think it would be impacted lower or even higher? ZNA SoCal uses ZNA, AKCA and Shinkokai judges and has used them for many years. This is not a first for this diversity of judges. As I recall when we last showed at San Diego, they had the same type of judges, ZNA, AKCA, Shinkokai, I personally feel that with having judges from all the different organizations can improve the judging, and also aide in learning.
I think the only thing San Diego has changed this year from previous years, is that they will be having the USA chapter of Shinkokai dealers handling all the fish in the show. Which is not something new for other clubs shows, since ZNA SoCAl always has the Shinkokai dealers handling there fish.

John
I really don't understand why, you have made so many threads regarding AKCA, ZNA, Dealers, Hobbiest Shows etc.. You say you are doing it for the good of the hobby, but every post brings up subjects that seem to try to hurt the organizations and the people within them, that you say you are trying to promote. Perhaps it is your strong words and style, but it seems to me that you are searching for something more than helping the hobby.
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