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Thanks Brady. Mike Pfeffer here.

This discussion centers around the difference between a koi that finishes early and one that finishes late. After just getting back from Nisei Koi Farm, I think what Mat talks about jives more with my experience even though we both may be saying the same thing. What I have tried to grasp over the last 5-8 years is skin quality. Novice hobbyist may see a deep red on a kohaku and believe they are looking "quality" beni. But as Mat pointed out, quality beni may appear on persimmon red or on a darker red. Brady, what you have described as a koi that finishes early may simply be what another breeder describes as poor quality hi. More on this. Got to run. Very interesting subject to me. Thanks again Brady.