take this opportunity to show the two nisai ochiba I picked up from Mat. The one with the larger pattern may be a male. The other is likely a female. The female pattern is weaker but it actually did look like leaves to me, and since I can't show, what the heck. Didn't Matt say the male parent was a kohaku in that spawn? I can't quite recall. (Information overload)
Mitch
PS
The kohaku in the middle pix came from Mat as well.