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This post will go sideways to Malaysia again. Please Papa Bear, help me if you can. Can you find the excel drawings DTTK did of stock ponds? Or others?

I feel lucky that I didn't have to learn these concepts here, but at koi.com.my instead. One reason is certainly the language. When reading the English written by those from Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Hong Kong (King's brother) the pattern of the words is completely different and different posters order their words and their thoughts in different ways. Meanings became clear with these different interpretations, with the different reitterations of the same thoughts and the same concepts in several different ways.

A second reason is because the ponding and fish keeping that I learned there was NOT based on products. Only two products seemed universally needed- pumps and filter mat. Many used bioballs. Many used fiberglasss tanks. None used contraptions like those discussed at length on American forums. Time and energy was devoted to pond and filter capacity, water flow through pond and filters, and intercations with media.

And because of wise and knowledgable, thoughtful and energetic hobbyists who consider that "home", and are called sifu there, there was a bank of pond drawings to link back to. There was a couple of "good for this size" offerings to base conversations on and the interplay of the water and the fish and the pond was easily understood.

Yes, its true, manufacturers, dealers and pond builders should not be involved in this discussion. Which hobbyists to draw from here? I had to learn to type to talk on forums, never having had a "real" job. I don't yet feel ready to learn to draw but I am frustrated that nobody else is. I don't bleed for those who buy from aquascape, but I know that many savvy consumers would find better information if it was formatted and ready to find. Thanks for the kick in the pants, Gentleman From Florida.