[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by JasPR No one has 400 tategoi at age one???!! Bud, tategoi is a promising koi for next year. EVERYONE has 400 keepers! Or they'd have no two year olds!! If two pairs throw off 200,000 fry ( a very modest number) and 3/4 are thrown away ( a very heavy hand in culling for an established line of known breeders), that leaves 50,000. If only two percent are keepers ( the rest are tateshita for export) for next year ( and with kohaku of predictabel parents, Tosho San will confirm it is a much larger number/ percentage) that is 1000 fish. If the breed stashes away 500 for next year, that leaves 500 for sale. These number are very conservative as many breeders have multiple pairs. So I repeat, 500 hidden tategoi for next year grow out, 500 tategoi for sale and 49,000 tateshita for sale from between $35- $120 wholesale. Here is a photo of a famous breeders hold back tategoi-

JR, we are on the same page. I was talking only of Hoshikins top Tategoi Tosai, not his 400 keepers. Yes, if his 400 keepers were $5,000 a piece you got a point that would be wild. I do not consider the top 400 keepers the same as when I talk about Tategoi.