[Eugeneg]

Quote: Originally Posted by ppp JR, We Asians are pretty adept at haggling and bargaining. Don't forget, Japanese are Asians too. They may open with a higher price, expecting you to bargain. If you don't, too bad for you and too good for him! Discounts of 25-40% from their opening offer price are not unusual. Perhaps that may be why kois cost so much more in the West than over here.

So may be an Auction is the way to go for me . Or I could rent a bicycle and arrive at the breeders but might not get any attention . In the long run I do think that if you have a knowlegeble dealer working and negotiating for you there would be much price diffrence .
Then best deal I got was when I asked Toshio to select for me worst was when I selected some better fish from photos especially one showa . Then surprise as 2 excellent showas were included with young fish .
I would think that a slacker time such as March where there has been few sales large heating bills with a substantial purchase might be a good time but to make a substantiol purchase you would have to be a dealer .
Then come the shipping problems unless you have a larger quantity . Myself I put a fair price and when a haggler has used up some of my time I increase the price and say sorry I made a mistake works for me every time and I usually get a little more than I asked .
Regards
Eugene