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Well Butch, what about your pond. Is it Polyurea, or liner? Did you spray it yourself, or did you hire it done?

See, Butch, I am not just some little stupid schmuck you can sell your stuff to. I know a bit about Polyurea.

See, I don’t have to guess at what they taught at the schools, I went, paid my money and learned. Guess what, the biggest part of the class was not the different equipment and how it works like you guessed. Guess what Butch? They spent three whole days covering the prep work that goes into the spray job, what to look for, what to avoid (sharp corners aunt one of them ) and to keep from having serious problems in the finished product. And I am not some slick salesman that gets the customer through the door with false advertising on price, only to stick it to them later with add ons.

And you know what, they also taught us to do math properly, not like you are attempting to do via semantics. And while the use of too much Polyurea is expensive, the use of too little is frowned upon very highly. That is why I am amazed that you would recommend your product at 30 mils over concrete, and 50 mils over liner, totally contrary to accepted industry standards. Hell, If I sprayed Polyurea at 30 mils, I could drop the prices down by half, and still make some money.

You claim it is Polyurea. OK, then publish the percentages of your chemistry. Don’t give a fiddlers damn about the trade secrets you cut it with, just want to know the percent of pure Polyurea.

I understand if you don’t know, you are just the salesman.

Oh and l like your Q&A area. What happens when I spray my pond at 50 mils, and it still leaks?

Answer: Quite simply, you screwed up. Its all your fault, none of ours. We are telling you to use less than the industry recognized standard for your application, and you just didnt follow our instructions. You must have left pinholes. Yes sir, thats it, you left pinholes. Now you have to get more materiel to cover the areas that are too thin with more materiel. Now, we do have a product warranty, but guess what, the product didn’t fail, the installer failed. So you are now stuck with a leaking pond. But of course, we could sell you more materiel to fill in those pesky pin holes……But that of course would raise the price per square foot, but that would be your fault not ours.

Now Butch, do you really know what the major cause of pinholes is? Guess what, it is standing at one area and putting on materiel just like you recommended. You never want to put on more than 10-15 mils at a pass. You paint it on just like you do with a car paint job. A bunch of thin coats. At 50 mils, you need to be putting on 4-5 coats, not just one massive coating like you stated. So by your very own admission on how to apply your own product, you are setting the customer up to fail. And I have a problem with that scenario.

As for me, I’ve sprayed a few gallons here and there. But the biggest part of what I do is follow up on other Polyurea installations that have failed. Failed why??? Not because the person didn’t know how to put it down, but instead didn’t follow the rules. Like proper site prep. Like spraying properly in thin coats and not 50 mils at one pass. You name it, Ive seen it. You wanna see delamination? Pinholes? Product failures? Installation nightmares?

Funny enough, I charge anywhere from $5.50-15/SF to spray a new job depending on what prep work needs to be done and the size of the project. But I charge $20-45/SF to clean up other peoples messes and do it right.

So yep, I have problems with the way you represent Polyurea. It makes the rest of the industry look very bad.

Best Regards