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Old 09-05-2007   #21 (permalink)
Nancy M.
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Originally Posted by schildkoi View Post
OK, the title was "seminar topic choices". There is no doubt that all are worthy topics. JR's and my "adverse" comments concerning tosai were simply designed around what is undoubtably a poor investment in the long run. No doubt about tosai being a learning experience in a number of ways. But, the criteria used in selecting tosai are still geared towards show standards....body conformation, depth of color, pattern, quality ssues, all show criteria. So why use these criteria if the criteria itself for Tosai selection is almost certainly doomed for long term failure? I would think that although the education of selecting a tosai is a noble cause, I would also think that part of the education in the "Tosai Selection Seminar" would also be to educate those making the selections that they have little chance of long term success? While most have selected this seminar as being a first choice, are they perpetuating a "dream" that has little chance of success? Heck, I am guilty in that regard too....I still by lottery tickets for the multi million dollar jackpots and have about the same chance of hitting that as I do buying a Tosai that will yield a GC. Again, not everyone may be after a GC but aren't all "good" selection criterias geared for that?

Sorry Dick...just feeling fiesty this morning. II'll stick to my rankings even though I know what "should be" and what "actually is" are typically disjointed.

Steve
Been there done that.. Tosai are a great learning tool, but a very poor investment. Never seen a koi that won Baby GC, ever get to a higher level than best in size the following year, and after that there is only one way for it to go, and that is down hill. 99% of the tosai "ringers" are finished fish. Any tosai worthy of growing and perhaps one day of being Grand Champ caliber are in Japan, in the breeders "really secret ponds".
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