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Great !
Having been to both Matsunsuke farms over many years and studying the lines both with my own purchases left there as well as the purchases of others I tend to travel with, I can tell you that the old matsunosuke line ( classic cigar shape with length in front of the dorsal and yellow/orange beni ) has given way to the newer silken skin with ginrin/fukurin look. But tama-gin is as rare as hens teeth in that line. In addition, the creator of tamagin, Sekiguchi San, did not use the Niigata gin to create it. And Niigata gin is closely linked to matsunosuke gin.
The other real dichotomy can be appreciated in the size of the fish showing each type.
Matsunosuke are of course, typically larger than average gosanke/sanke. The gin strip is intense in young ones and hangs in pretty well in adults due to that translucant silk skin.
Tama gin does not tend to have a very long life at all. With the effect being rare in mature adult fish. And it benefits from hard white shiro as it is such a subtle looking gin. I have noticed over the years that tamagin is usually associated with male fish of a young age? Now I can't say that it is a rule, as tamagin fish are rare and I have not seen all that many over the 54 shows I've judged. So when we do see one, we consider it's rareness. And since the odds of finding a really good one are even rarer, we consider that a special fish.
In either case and actually all cases, you do not want to have a show fish with more than one type of ginrin. That is not good. So breed for one type or the other and cull the ones that don't hold true to the goal. JR
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