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Old 01-04-2004   #161 (permalink)
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Mr. Snaden, I cannot resist re-publishing my previous backyard research on the FIR affecting alcoholic beverages, in a spirit of playfullness and fun and with all due respect.

Here is scene of the experiment. I have several different kinds of beers, a glass and a fired ceramic vessel. After the first few tastes I must admit, drinking from the flower pot made it taste awful.....
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Old 01-04-2004   #162 (permalink)
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But as the experiment progressed I found I could no longer taste any difference and I felt a strange glow. The Far Infrared Rays?
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Very Cute SMG!

Mike, I don't know what to say about the magic tricks! I'll go have a beer at Carl's and let you know! But if your up to the test here is what I'd like you to do- put the magic cups into the biofilter- leave then three weeks just below the surface so sheering effect doesn't occur. Remove the cups and re-do the whiskey experiment. Here's why-

You again missed something in my last post! Biofilm COVERS all surfaces. There is no longer a raw surface in touch with teh passing water once biofilm coats it. I have some magic proof of my own- put your finger in the drain of your kitcken skin- feel the slime? Touch your teeth before and after you brush- feel diiferent?

The problems your customer was having with pH tell me something was fundamentally wrong with his old system. I think its a safe statement to make when I say I have been to visit over 100 high end show ponds in the USA, UK, Taiwan, Belgium, Germany and Japan. All have one thing in common- they are very stable. So Blishock, Aremia, The dream pond, Kato, Mao, Tsai, Lu, Ballou, Caddock, Stewardson, Waddington, Omachi, Goforth, Langer and Narita all have no pH problems as a chronic consequence of their submerged biofilters! What I'm saying is when anyone, your customer included, goes from a non working to a working system they will be pleased!

I have a few pieces of bacteria house. I'm going to place them in my filters as specimen pieces. I'll put some in the vortex and some in biological section. If I can get some from Carl I'll put some in my towers. I'm interested in seeing the surface change. I think it would be ideal to place lava rock and pitted glass media next to the BH to see if the film changes from material to material. Sounds like fun! JR
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Hi JR,

I've not entirely missed your point. You mean to tell me that the biofilm is waterproof, and won't let water into the media? As I said, the pots are glazed, so if you like, the 'magic' is occuring through
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Hi Mike, kinda- not water proof as water must enter the biofilm to import what is need ed in the way of organic and inorganic molecules. In this regard it IS ‘the filter’ before the surface. In the lowest layer of the biofilm are resting cells. Reservists, if you will, that are there as a survival strategy. This is usually the dead end of a biofilm on a solid surface. The problem with the answer unit that, in all modest I identified immediately, was the likelihood of biofilm growing and closing the holes in the 100 micron screen. The manufacturer though more power would work. Impossible! Biofilm grows on the propellers of giant tanker ships. Biofilm was growing on the cross section of the openings, by expanding the opening to 200 micron gaps, the biofilm had a more difficult time of covering the span. In your case, you have the issue of portraying the media as having filtering powers when they are coated with the active filtering and selective permeability powers of biofilm? And again I do not understand Infrared powers so I remain somewhat open minded albeit, highly skeptical.
You should also know that the several of the purists mentioned ,including myself, run water softeners and demineralizers on our ponds. I have neutral-ish pH , soft low alkalinity water all the time. No crashes yet but its only been 20 years so anything could happen!
Two questions for you- Do you know Maeda’s pH and alkalinity?
Do your customers use clay additive? What brand?
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Hi JR,

I understand your point, but BH media has holes in it that the biofilm won't bridge. I appreciate that the biofolm will undoubtedly cover the microscopicly rough surface of the media (which is why it works so well), but it won't block the holes. Water will makes it's way through the media completely. I understand your scepticism of the FIR, as it's such a hard thing to understand, and also hard for a typical layman to prove or disprove.

Mr Maeda's ponds generally run at, or slightly below 7.5 pH. TDS levels generally run at between 80 and 90ppm. I realise that several hobbiests in the US use de-alkalysers (should it have 'z'?). I think this is a step in the right direction, depending on the available mains water. But, such equipment works on 'ion-exchange', and hence puts other ions into the water, and also leaves the TDS level exactly the same. The de-mineralyser works on exactly the same principal. I started looking into this back in '98, and only found a solution that suited me, back in July 2001.

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Brian,
I should at least get a bronze pin as I was able to read all the posts up to 115. But what can they all still be talking about.
You guys that are still posting, Don't your heads hurt?
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That's true Mike and I agree, you are only swapping sodium and calcium.
But on your other point, That is what they said about the miracle product siporax in the nineties- no clogging!
Here is a quote from the manufacturer of Siporax, Schott, from their leaflet entitled “ Siporax guide to perfect water quality” -
“ After an external period of continuous use, some of the Siporax pores many become clogged. Should this happen the biological efficiency of the media will , obviously be effected.
It is therefore recommended that the total amount of siporax be replaced with fresh cylinders every six months in order to avoid any drop off in purification performance.”
YIKES!

Pores are pores and they can be filled in as organics create a lush biofilm of autotrophs and heterotrophs. Here’s a shot of the Siporax. I’ll get a shot up of the mature Bacteria house.

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Mike, this as close as I can get with mature bacteria house and still get a viewable picture. I think its a thumbnail shot so click on it to make a bigger viewable picture. JR
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Let me try that again----
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