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Thread: Ion-exchange Softener for good skin?

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    Sansai
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    Ion-exchange Softener for good skin?

    Around my region, there is a very strong opinion among hobbyists that soft water is very good for koi. It promote good growth and improve the quality of the skin - more lustre, thicker mucus to prevent parasites and better overall health.

    So a big number of us installed ion-exchange softener (as I undestand it, to get rid of Ca and Mg, which are replaced by Na), and feel satisfied that now the water is 'soft'!

    In one of the thread in this forum last year, if I remember correctly, several people pointed out that ion-exchange softener is actually useless, and water should be softened only by lowering TDS. I tend to agree with this, but not very sure.

    Would board members of this forum give clarification. The more the better, to support this opinion, as among my friends, I am really going against the tide. Thank you all.

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    Hi Kiky, have a look at this write up....

    http://www.yumekoi.com/articles/april_2003.pdf

    Col 8)

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    while your checking out that particular one of Mike's articles, you might want to read other ideas of his on water care. he's contributed a lot to learning. ( don't tell him i said that, don't want it going to his head )

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    just read a very intresting article in koi keepers from anne telford who says that the japanese water is not soft but is on the hard side and this is better for koi so who is right ?

    rick

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    Hard as compared to where?
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    hi brian hard as compared to what people are trying to achive in england have not got a copy(koi keepers) here at home will borrow from work on wed and post more.

    rick

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    Interesting...water in Japan tends to be relatively soft compared to many other places. Do you know what type of hardness Anne was referring to?

    I've got pretty good records from gov't water reports on many places in Japan, and can use these as a reference. Wonder if Mike Snaden is snooping around the forum today, as I'm sure he'd pick up on this post and throw his 2 cents in. :mrgreen:
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    Mr Snaden isn't snooping around the forum, having just spoken to him.

    I have an article here somewhere that appeared in Nichirin and contained water analysis across a number of breeders, mud ponds and concrete ponds, i'll try and dig it out.

    Mark

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    Ha, Anne does not like soft water. She does not sell any equipment to make soft water, so it can't be any good!

    Maurice.
    User of soft water.

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    Always the man of few words. Glad to see you posting. Your presense on this board is appreciated. I was pulling for you that you'd get over the heartsick of your loss and redouble your efforts to control your destiny in raising high quality domestics. my bets are on you!

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