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matt · 12-18-2003

As was mentioned in the 'Where is Dick' thread, perhaps we should have a seaprate thread devoted to picutures and talk of Asagi, labeled as such.

So here it is, I would love to see photos of any asagi any of you keep, plus here more about the diferent varieties and bloodlines and breeding/culling strategies.

I'm thinking it might be cool to have a separate ongoing thread for each koi variety. Considering my pond is 90% asagi and budo-goromo I will start a koromo thread too.

Bob Winkler · 12-19-2003

Here are a few.... turns out dark on this site though

Mike Mazur · 12-19-2003

how bout a page for Kumonryu? at least this fish will look different each month when you take its pic! wish I could have the time to develop the changing pattern to a few others... why not a changing kikusui? why not a mix of a kikusui and a kumonryu? ahhhhh a glimps of what someday may be.... come on lottery 80 mill tonight...

Dan Blatt · 12-19-2003

Here is another Asagi. Female 30 inches and even better in person (Dick has already seen this one). The only thing wrong with her is that she isn't mine!!!

dick benbow · 12-19-2003

Bob, who did you say was the breeder of these three asagi's? Which one did you select?

Bob Winkler · 12-19-2003

Hi Dick,

None of these were mine, unfortunately, but one belonged to a couple from Washington (I think that is where they are from). The breeder was Marudo. All are close to 80 cm.

Best regards,

Bob Winkler

Lane-O · 12-20-2003

Here's an exceptional asagi that was on display at the San Diego show this year

Unfortunately I don't know who owns it or who the breeder is.

dick benbow · 12-20-2003

Mr winkler,

Thanks, no wonder I recognized the one in the bottom left. the couple

are from Spokane area. nice koi.

Per Johannesson · 12-21-2003

Some stunning asagis above!

I was just wondering: How do you cull small asagi fry? The hi could hardly be out yet and the blue...? Do they go for single coloured pale grey or white or what?

Regards,

Per

dick benbow · 12-23-2003

Per,

In simbetsu for asagi, the amount of red showing is used as a gauge.

basically what your looking at is a whiteish koi. the older they get the more red begins to display. in most cases of QUALITY asagi ,the blue asagi han does not show until the third year.

In a perfect candidate, as tosai...the koi would have motoaka (showa like pecs with one third red (instead of black). An extremely high quality white face (about i/3rd of the head in the mouth nose area). the koi that look like the posters of all japan show winners at this age will never make it as an adult.

Like many color varieties of koi, the secret is the longer it takes to get to where it needs to be, the longer it will stay there. that's why tategoi are so expensive and because you don't see the end in sight, the more difficult it is to part with your money!

I will be breeding them this year. I was down checking on mom and dad in the wintering ponds two days ago. dad stays there till spring but mom, i will bring in and warm up in February and beginning feeding to increase egg production. Of the 60,000 fry I expect to get I'll have about

60 koi to work with next fall with some potential! By the third year I should have 2 or 3 of each variety. Mom is narumi and dad is reverse. I have looked forward to this year for a long time.

12-18-2003	#1 (permalink)
matt Nisai Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kichijoji, Tokyo Posts: 77	Asagi As was mentioned in the 'Where is Dick' thread, perhaps we should have a seaprate thread devoted to picutures and talk of Asagi, labeled as such. So here it is, I would love to see photos of any asagi any of you keep, plus here more about the diferent varieties and bloodlines and breeding/culling strategies. I'm thinking it might be cool to have a separate ongoing thread for each koi variety. Considering my pond is 90% asagi and budo-goromo I will start a koromo thread too.

12-19-2003	#3 (permalink)
Mike Mazur Nisai Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar grove, NJ USA Posts: 141	kumonryu how bout a page for Kumonryu? at least this fish will look different each month when you take its pic! wish I could have the time to develop the changing pattern to a few others... why not a changing kikusui? why not a mix of a kikusui and a kumonryu? ahhhhh a glimps of what someday may be.... come on lottery 80 mill tonight...

12-19-2003	#5 (permalink)
dick benbow Honmei Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 4,191	bob, who was breeder again? Bob, who did you say was the breeder of these three asagi's? Which one did you select?

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12-19-2003	#2 (permalink)
Bob Winkler Jumbo Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 867 Blog Entries: 1	Here are a few.... turns out dark on this site though

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Dan Blatt Tategoi Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 410	Here is another Asagi. Female 30 inches and even better in person (Dick has already seen this one). The only thing wrong with her is that she isn't mine!!!

12-19-2003	#6 (permalink)
Bob Winkler Jumbo Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 867 Blog Entries: 1	Hi Dick, None of these were mine, unfortunately, but one belonged to a couple from Washington (I think that is where they are from). The breeder was Marudo. All are close to 80 cm. Best regards, Bob Winkler

12-20-2003	#7 (permalink)
Lane-O Fry Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 8	Here's an exceptional asagi that was on display at the San Diego show this year Unfortunately I don't know who owns it or who the breeder is.

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dick benbow Honmei Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 4,191	Mr winkler, Thanks, no wonder I recognized the one in the bottom left. the couple are from Spokane area. nice koi.

12-21-2003	#9 (permalink)
Per Johannesson Fry Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 2	Some stunning asagis above! I was just wondering: How do you cull small asagi fry? The hi could hardly be out yet and the blue...? Do they go for single coloured pale grey or white or what? Regards, Per

12-23-2003	#10 (permalink)
dick benbow Honmei Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 4,191	Per, In simbetsu for asagi, the amount of red showing is used as a gauge. basically what your looking at is a whiteish koi. the older they get the more red begins to display. in most cases of QUALITY asagi ,the blue asagi han does not show until the third year. In a perfect candidate, as tosai...the koi would have motoaka (showa like pecs with one third red (instead of black). An extremely high quality white face (about i/3rd of the head in the mouth nose area). the koi that look like the posters of all japan show winners at this age will never make it as an adult. Like many color varieties of koi, the secret is the longer it takes to get to where it needs to be, the longer it will stay there. that's why tategoi are so expensive and because you don't see the end in sight, the more difficult it is to part with your money! I will be breeding them this year. I was down checking on mom and dad in the wintering ponds two days ago. dad stays there till spring but mom, i will bring in and warm up in February and beginning feeding to increase egg production. Of the 60,000 fry I expect to get I'll have about 60 koi to work with next fall with some potential! By the third year I should have 2 or 3 of each variety. Mom is narumi and dad is reverse. I have looked forward to this year for a long time.