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Old 03-31-2004   #11 (permalink)
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A proper pic of Maurice's Kohaku!
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Last but not least... a pic of Maurices Sanke, with it's boyfriend! This was a 'one on one' breeding, as they were looking to produce certain characteristics, rather then an abundance of offspring.
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these are some very nice pictures from the auction at momataro and a enjoyable time had by all with your purchases for future breading.
hope all turns out well for you in the future.

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Mike,
Thanks for neat pics and filling in details on "the rest of the story".
Sure wished you lived alot closer. enjoyed your article in KB. my best to the owners of the three ponds, enjoyable quest to be involved in!
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Dick, my impressions of the trip.
This was my second visit to Momotaro and just like the first I came away feeling overwhelmed by the Maeda family hospitality. I guarantee you will not find this level of hospitality at any breeder, anywhere in the world. They are truly nice people.
I’m looking forward to returning in the autumn, wish I could go before.

Bob, my tosai kohaku was larger than most. I think I am correct in saying there were 3 at 49cm. One had a slightly larger frame, but was far to Beni heavy for what I was looking for.

Alex, Momotaro breed showa, but they do not seem to concentrate on growing them large over the winter. There were many that went through the auction, but smaller sizes at around 25cm/30cm.
They often breed a novelty fish, last year this was a cross of Doitsu Chagoi female with 2 male Kumonryu. This produced a real mix and match of babies. I was attracted to some Doitsu yellow Chagoi/Kigoi from this spawning and fancied breeding this yellow colour into my Chagoi. Mike had a pond of gosanke being held there and in this pond was the best example of above I had seen, so I said to Mike I would take it. Cutting the story short, this Chagoi was placed in a floating net with Mike’s expensive gosanke, I said to Mike that I hoped it would not be the same price. When we asked Daisuke, he said it was not for sale and they were growing it on for breeding. My upset was obvious, so Daisuke went off to ask his Father if it were possible for them to sell it, after many smiles, some chatter between themselves and some hugs from me Maeda san said ‘Presento’ and made a gift of the koi. Thrilled was an understatement!
Photo below. It will be a long-term project to try to breed out the parentage mix and put this colour on my scaled chagoi with high quality reticulation. But I'll get there!!

Mike many thanks for the photos, great trip, shame your hospitality falls a little short.
THAT'S A JOKE! Thanks for a good time. PS the pond is gel coated!!
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Maurice,

Cracking story, bet you was well chuffed to get the Koi and for free! Some of your Chagoi have looked great when you have posted pictures of them, will be very interesting to see this one mixed into the breeding.

Is the colour as seen in this picture, or has the picture changed it at all?
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So, if momotaro is not the place to find jumbo tosai showa, then where is? Marudo? Hiroshima Sakai? What I want to do personally for my breeding experiments is get a female with giant growth potential and mix it in with my male showa from Brady and another male that suits my needs. The idea would be to get that brilliant white and red on a larger frame.

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Alex, I'm not saying Momotaro Showa do not have great growth potential, just that they do not concentrate on growing them as they do Kohaku and sanke. Their showa parents are very large and have great quality.

Bob, I think the colour match is fairly good.
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Maurice - thanks for all the super photos. Absolutely love your new kohaku and the kigoi /chargoi is quite nice. Thanks again for sharing.
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Wow!

Folks, thanks for sharing!
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