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Old 09-27-2004   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks Maurice,
I always look foreward to you're posts and pics,
Very well done,
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Old 09-27-2004   #12 (permalink)
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Maurice,

I raised a kujaku spawn for the first time this year. The brood fish do not belong to me, but they are nice (nicer than anything I own). Koi never breed true, but the diversity in this group was greater than what I was used to with gosanke. I did not keep count of the 5 cm kajaku tategoi as they were tossed into a separate pond, but doubt it is over a dozen pieces. There seemed to be more promising 5 cm kohaku and hi utsuri in the group. They are 15-20 cm now and I need to go through them again in the next few weeks. I see many are already too "stubby" (short and fat) at 15-20 cm and I need to start being more particular about confirmation at 5 cm. I wonder if the wide offspring diversity is because kujaku are a relatively new "variety", or if I just had an unusual batch?

From the same guy, I got a batch of kikusui fry. Survival was terrible and there were no more than 1,000 at 2 cm. I did not find a single kikusui in the batch but did save several dozen fish which are black and gold. They are like kumonryu but with ki instead of shiro. All have good confirmation, are pleasing to my eye, and almost identical. Does this fish have a name? Or am I devoting precious space to identical muts?

Dick, Maurice and Whoever,

Do you guys see different types of deformities from different brood pairs and/or from different varieties? Before this year, I had only worked with a very narrow gene pool of kohaku. About the only deformity I ever saw was the typical flared gill syndrome. In the kujaku batch, there was less gill deformity, but a lot of crooked mouths. In the kikusui batch, there was a lot of deformed pectoral fins. Of course, its always fish with the best patterns which have some sort of deformity.

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Old 09-27-2004   #13 (permalink)
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Hey Steve,
Most of your ogon based koi will have two major flaws to watch out for.
deformed or mis sized pecs and shortened body length.
wait till you get into showa! (LOL) crooked head is all the rage!
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