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Old 10-14-2004   #11 (permalink)
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Smile another yamakoshi great

igarashi kazuto has to be on anyones top ten, His indoor fish house is home to some of the finest go-sanke. prices are high, but you have to pay for quality. Can I just say great thread and a lot of fun, however we in England go through fads with breeders it used to be sakai brothers, then hiroshima sakai and now everyone is into Momotaro. They are all great breeders and will continue to do so, however everyone forgets the smaller breeders especially in the north.About 10 % of all breeders production is top quality the finest koi. Its just that places like Sakai hiroshima are about the same size as a Niigata village housing about 7 koi breeders.So the massive volume of koi cant be bread, leaving a small amount of koi to be top class. And when you visit Hiroshima sakai your see hundreds of high class koi, just think if a breeder in the niigata area such as Kazuto could have the same facilities and space
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Brian mentioned Nagashima for Shiro Utsuri. I had one with not the best conformation, but the sumi was as good as I've seen, the white was first rate and the patterning was attractive... and appears attractive in the occasional pic I see of Nagashima Shiros. So many top Shiros no longer have attractive patterns. One hardly ever sees Nagashima Shiros available in the U.S.
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This has been an interesting thread so far,
As for my favourites Shiro`s omosako and seki, showa`s Kawakami and sakuma, Kohaku still to find same for sanke.
But as i`m concentrating more on showa and shiro`s in new pond, will be looking into a few of the names that have cropped up.
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Omosako is producing some nice showa and kohaku
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I will always repect and appreciate Toshio sakai of isawa for all the gosanke including shiro...

But if you really pushed me hard atleast equal is igarashi kazuto of mushigame
for the same group of 4. His best shiros as nisai are gigantic and all white. The showa on my pictured koi is from "iggy".


I also think for kohaku, for quality and price you'll not beat hasegawa from ojiya.

Kentaro sakai from hiroshima contributed greatly to my knowledge of koi and i would be remiss by not mentioning him. irregardless of what you've heard, the facts are year after year thier koi have always been if not at the top right there consistantly.
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With you all the way there Dick,
Another guy that's often overlooked is the elder Sakai brother Toshiyuke,
I'd never leave Mushigame without paying him a visit.

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We would like more info on Ueno, the new up and coming breeder whose fish were in the top 5 for Grand Champion at the All-Japan. How do we find him and more info?

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We would like more info on Ueno, the new up and coming breeder whose fish were in the top 5 for Grand Champion at the All-Japan. How do we find him and more info?

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Funny you mention that, as I was planning on paying them a visit later on in the Spring. Located in Kyushu, and the son did his apprenticeship at SFF. They are producing very good quality Showa, and have finally got noticed in the All-Japan this year.
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How would one go about getting fish from this breeder here in the US? We're just looking right now because we are planning on adding some Showas to our collection and have heard good things about him. Thanks for your reply; I love your magazine
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How would one go about getting fish from this breeder here in the US? We're just looking right now because we are planning on adding some Showas to our collection and have heard good things about him. Thanks for your reply; I love your magazine
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Very easily. Talk to your dealer(s) and tell them that you're interested. A good dealer will usually find a way to make it happen if he can. Problem is that Ueno is at almost the butt-end of Japan, and it may be a lot of work just to get a single fish for the dealer. Let's see what we can do to introduce the farm and pique some interest in it. Both father and son are quite interesting people.
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