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Old 12-05-2004   #11 (permalink)
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I think a better analogy would be to imagine a house (pond) and an attached gararge (filter). Make a couple of windows between the garage and the house and then mount a big fan in one of them. Air pushed in the one window has to escape via the other. This would be your cirulation thru the filter. The openings need to be large and the fliter must have a high void ratio if this is to repersent any sort of saving. The second a pump like this needs to lift water more than an inch of two, the pump rate drops like a stone.
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My filter chamber is going to be 35 ft long and three ft wide and perhaps two-and-a-half feet deep.. I plan on putting filter brushes in at a severe diagonal...perhaps a face of about 6ftx2ft+...more if I need it.
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Hey, I didn't know this thread was over here too

Im going to do this same exact thing. Luke and I have been collaborating. Bascially a totally gravity fed filter system, with the deicer propeller pump thinging on the last chamber pushing right back to the pond. Waterfalls and other ammenities would be from other pumps.

The only head pressure on this type of system would be backpressure. If your gravity feed piping is undersized, you would definetly notice it.

Here is my filter system (before deck was added and pumps. The top 3 chambers are each 200 gallon settling chambers. Each connected by a 4" drain to the bottom of the pond. These chambers are all connected to the long chamber which is a horizontal filter chamber. First item in the chamber is 3 rows of black night filter brushes (48 total). Then bird netting as the bio-media. The pump(s) sit in the dry chamber on the right.

To add this new style pump, I would modify this long horizontal chamber to have a 6" pipe boot leaving and going right back to the pond. Then the pump would be mounted on the wet end (inside the filter).

I will be trying this next summer!! If that pump moves 20,000 gallons, even this filter system might be to undersized for it for the gravity flow to settle out enough particles.
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Crikeees, I can't post a pic of it here either...well if you go to newt's you can see the Ice eater making a substabtial water plume...it looks like it will push 20,000gph. the prop looked tiny and weak when i took it outta the box, but i was not disappointed when I lowered it into the pond.

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Here is the picture that Luke couldn't post.
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Thanks for the picture. Which model?

Is this the complete standard setup with the short "tube"? When the power is off, how far is the top of the tube and the propeller blades from the surface of the water? I am trying to estimate the "head".

Looking good, Thanks.
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this is the smallest model Ice Eater (1.5 Amps at 115volts) sold by power house aerators. Basically it is the Aerator without the float. I'll post another pic of it at newt's for you bancherd......I Don't know if Theron will provide "space" for it so it can be posted here.
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Out of the water....
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I'm very Sorry. I have misquoted the power usage of this pump...the label on the pump reads 1.3 Amps at 120volts.
if this has caused any problems, you have my heartfelt apology.
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Shucks Luke, not all THAT big a difference. No need to grovel!
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