Sanke (Sakai Hiroshima) To Comment

[MikeM]

Oh, about the Sumi. It is very interesting how it is coming in. It gives more of an impression of Showa Sumi right now, and there is not much of the "blue" effect of hidden Sumi rising up as is so commonly seen in Matsunosuke-line Sanke. However, you have a fish that has a great deal of development ahead. It is hard me to say where it is in development.... whether this dappling effect results from baby Sumi going down, or adult Sumi coming up? Since it was held over in inventory, development will not have been the same as would have been if out in a pond. .... which makes the apparent growth experienced in the past year more impressive. The effect of "holding back" tosai during their second growth season is a topic of interest to me. I was doing a little not-very-scientific experiment with some, but it was disrupted by unplanned events. I still have a Showa that spent its second growing season in a dealer's inventory, growing only a couple of inches. (I've not got my notes w/me, but I think it was from about 9" to about 11".) After a third growing season in a pond, it has doubled in length, over 22" and maybe edging onto 24". Despite the growth, the color is better now than when a 12" nisai. The effect on color, etc of being in a dealer's inventory is not positive, at least among the dealers I know. (Perhaps yours is different?) .... Too crowded, too little food, improper lighting and lots of stress from constant netting/bowling of both the one fish and its companions.... not an environment to get the best results.

[dick benbow]

Paulino88,
Your discription of the differences in the Hi plate is exactly what I saw as well.
But in reality, being able to afford a perfect anything is only a dream for most of us. Enjoy this koi. learn from it. things about red you can learn is that dirty conditions, too high a protein content for the water temperature and too high a PH can all have negative influences on koi which have a weakness in the red.
Manage this koi. Help it to be the best it can be and you will have benefited it and yourself as well.

[kiky]

Paulino,

I went to KIKI of Samurai this morning. Several hundreds of koi - tosai and nisai of kohaku, showa, sanke, ochiba, kujaku and tancho, with certificate and without - have just arrived. In case you are interested to have a look. I will post pictures of those I have selected later.

[paulino88]

My concern is whether the sumi is losing or gaining since the dealer didn't reveal the chronology of its sumi development (can't be blamed for that right?). any other koi kichi has any idea on this issue ? however, the dealer suggested to put this koi in hardwater.

Hmmnnn, on one hand to enhance the eveness of hi i need soft water while if i dont want to loose the sumi then i need hardwater .. tough choices ..

Yes, kiky. pls kindly post the picture so that we can wet our appetite .. he3x My koi friends and i plan to visit nirwana koi this coming weekend hence visit to bandung needs to be postponed.