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Old 04-22-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts on this kohaku

Kohaku...18 inch, 2 step male. The quality of the beni is absolutely wonderful from front to rear, very even...pictures really don't show the depth. Just wondering what your thoughts are on the overall koi. Breeder is Mano
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I like her. Nice shape. Overall pattern is attractive. Would prefer the Hi not cover the one gill so much. I think she needs time to see if she becomes "exciting". In picture #2 I'm seeing some small gray shadows. Could just be the photography angle. If it is accurate, then I'd be concerned that there is Sumi hiding below.
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No...just the angle. Wish you could see this one in person. One of those koi that really doesn't excite off the bat pattern wise, but after you look at it and the quality of the beni it has....can't take your eye off it. The white ground is also good.....it's just the beni is super. In my opinion would be a real contender for young champion up to 20 inch. Very seldom do I see what I'm seeing at this size at shows. Saw one that was comparable quality wise, but was 23 or 24 inches.
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don't know what it is Dan but the koi reminds of you Grand champ from Puget Sound a few years back....
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From the pictures I have to agree, a definite contender for Young Champion title at any koi show. Maybe even a bigger prize at a young koi show. Male koi seem to do better in these smaller sizes in our local shows.

Is this a recent addition to your collection or have you had it for a while?
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Erwinsan....Still considering it. If it were female I would have already gotten it. Just not sure I want a male.

Dick...similar although my other was an Inazuma pattern. Similar hi on cheek plate. This one hands down is much higher quality.
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Dan,

Just my 2 cents. overall nice koi.

I agree with Mike about the hi covering the gill,
I am being picky - there is hi on the dorsal fin as well and there is a small hi to ward the end of tail on the first photo.

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Male vs Female beni

Dan,
I have to say that I haven't seen a picture of a koi that showed the depth and quality of beni like this kohaku does. I'm sure the pics still does not provide the full impact of the quality of beni. NICE! Thank you, my eyes have had a treat today.

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Would like some insight on any differences between beni development of male and female koi. From everyones experience rearing koi, does anyone have any experience that female koi develop beni better than male koi? Is it 50/50 or would beni development be more inclined to be better with female subjects. I'm sure it will vary from koi to koi, but interested in hobbiest experience on whether male koi can develop as well as female koi. Much like earlier posts of Momotaro's male koi's winning over female koi in Japan Shows, then all they would need to work on is SIZE! Hahaha.
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Body lines remind me of my Kohaku RP. I like it very much!! The fine balance of beni to shiro is nice. Dan can you explain alittle more about the Mano bloodline kohaks...

Also beni on the gill plate is cool with me, I am sure if it were too prefect the price would be way different than what you paid for it.
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Believe he raises Tomezo bloodline kohaku's. They are noted for their snow white ground and deep beautiful laquer beni. I can believe it after seeing this one.
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