Maruyama Showa and Kohaku

[wtansk]

Hi, like to invite comments on my new new purchase. 24cm kohaku and 30 cm Showa from Maruyama. The showa is an off-spring of the Japan DC. Both should be 11 months. Hope to hear from expert here. Note that the showa has sashi on 2 scales for all hi plate. Is it true that for a young koi, sashi is not avoidable?

[JasonS]

I'm worried about the sumi on the showa, but it is still young and comes from good stock so it might work out. Lovely shiroji though.

The kiwa on the kohaku isn't as tight as I'd want it but the sashi is just fine, IMHO.

That's my inexpert opinion. Any real experts want to take a shot at this?

[dick benbow]

I like the kohaku and love the showa!
keep in mind that most girl showas take 7-8 years to finish anyway from a black standpoint (3-4 with males) So the beni ( 2 scale sashi) has time to catch up from a beni stand point. Looks like you have quite a bit of black coming! i have seen tosai with perfect sashi and there wasn't enough money in the world for me to make the purchase! (lol)

I think since you've made the purchase just sit back and watch what happens and learn!

[Bob Winkler]

I Like Both koi, but the Showa is the one. Hard to find much wrong with it. No Tail stop (odome) is all I can come up with from the picture, while the positives are numerous. The sashi is actually good at this stage, while the Kohaku does not seem to have much. Based on beni alone, the kohaku will be show ready years b4 the Showa. Probably the only time to show it is this next year. I like it's Shiro and Beni, but it is of the harder type? Pattern wish is for it to come down more between the eyes.

Hope that helped.

[aquitori]

Showa: Looks kinda heavy in the front or goin to be...I like a bit more white. To me the Showa might be unbalanced because of the sumi.

Kohak: I like this one more. I like the dept of hi, Dick is right with the sashi but I could live with it maruzome kiwa is nice too.

Nice pickups, you'll get alot of learning from these tosais..Keep us up to date with the development.

[BabyKoi]

Hi, how are Maruyama Showa, Kohaku priced there?
Showa: Beautiful scales on shoulder! But less pleasing snout!
Bound to have great changes on Showa! Good watch.
Kohaku: Very conventional Kohaku, but lack hiban depth.
Let it grow. We shall see.
Is there a mass production of Maruyama stock?
What a new wave of frenzy lately!

[MikeM]

BabyKoi: That's what happens when a breeder's fish win in Tokyo in January. Everyone suddenly rediscovers what has been around all along ... actually, not the same parentage usually, but marketing and gene pools often do not connect.

[Akinosan]

I agree with Tony on the Kohaku, it looks like its going to be a winner. The Showa has a whole lotta potential, nice picks.

[wtansk]

Thanks for the comments put up. Need to take good care of them and update all 3 months later.

This showa is from the previous stock before the Japan show. The new stock costs much higher and better although they are from the same parents.

Cheers

[BabyKoi]

For wtansk:
What size are these 2 new catch? Have you measured them up?
Do take good care of them and update whenever possible.
Said Showa was previous-stock left over, even before Maruyama went famous. Shish!
Must say a nice piece! What price then? What amount in US$ for that finerling?
Some other contributors from another country had forked US$500 for similar fishy, affordable!
So do such a stock go? What sort of price was slapped on to?
Definitely new, unscreened stock must cost more, better yet when unselected!
If imported ones you almost can never be sure are of same parentage, whatever assurance the seller offer. Period.
Happy for your sharing. God bless. Madison BK.