konoko sanke

[brake san]

Jasons, When I got the koi out the color in the center of the scale is a darker beni than inthe edge of the scale, I also know that the kh is around 2 Which I know is soft but we trickle water in all the time to prevent a ph crash. Which we have never had.

kind regards

brake san
blake

[dick benbow]

Brake-san,
First of all I want to encourage you for you quest for knowledge.
Good black is more an issue of GH unhindered by any water quality issues that could contribute to a build up of nitric acid in unclean conditions.
Your on the right island to learn with the best on water quality outside of japan. click on Yume Koi and read some of his articles on water quality and see how it all goes together. Maybe Mike will get you an invite over for some hands on. Mike's the genuine article so don't be afraid to ask for his help!

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by brake san The breeder is matsunoske, And it looked great before, If I send you one of what it looked like before can you post that on there for me. kind regards blake (brake san)

Sure no problem...Since I am at work i will resize it and post it later.

[brake san]

Thanks dick, I know mike very well I knew him from when he first started, And my first decent koi came from him and I still have her well Im not sure what it is m/f, bit of both I think. I went to mikes last week with maurice cox, As usual mike bowls up every single koi for you to see, very high class stuff.

kind regards

brake san
blake squires

[D@z]

Quote: Originally Posted by dick benbow Brake-san, First of all I want to encourage you for you quest for knowledge. Good black is more an issue of GH unhindered by any water quality issues that could contribute to a build up of nitric acid in unclean conditions. Your on the right island to learn with the best on water quality outside of japan. click on Yume Koi and read some of his articles on water quality and see how it all goes together. Maybe Mike will get you an invite over for some hands on. Mike's the genuine article so don't be afraid to ask for his help!

I arrived at Yumekoi on Tuesday just as Blake and Maurice where leaving so I guess he has already been down that route.

Edit:Oops posted at same time as Blake.

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by brake san Thanks dick, I know mike very well I knew him from when he first started, And my first decent koi came from him and I still have her well Im not sure what it is m/f, bit of both I think. I went to mikes last week with maurice cox, As usual mike bowls up every single koi for you to see, very high class stuff. kind regards brake san blake squires

Mike is good people..I met him at Momotaro last year and he is a very very knowledgable person with nishikigoi and water quality....

[brake san]

sorry d@z,happy koi keeping

regards blake

[Eclipsar]

I was down Yumekoi on tuesday as well, but must of left to early as I missed everyone.

Regards

Chris

[Maurice]

Jason, Blake is fortunate to live in a soft water area, KH is low (around 3 if I remember). I pay a fortune for what comes out of the tap in their small village.



This just has to be put down to one of those things!!

Normally beni loss is an induced thing, caused by a stressor, such as parasites or water quality issues. But in this instance, neither of these are the case.



I think it was just due to Brake san being away from home and the sanke pining for him.



My advice is to take a photo and show Toshio when you visit him this harvest!!!!!!!



Maurice.

[JasonS]

I urge some caution with just keeping an eye on KH. You avoid pH crash but the pH may still move around quite a bit, causing stress to the fish. I have similar water (low KH, pH around 7.8 in pond, 8.2 from tap, no GH) and I did notice that sometimes my pH would jump around (it would go higher in evening; above 8.6).

I add GH back to the pond in the form of calcium chloride; only 20-40ppm (1 or 2 dGH). The pH stabilized at 7.8 with this new augmentation.

As a background task (AKA one I may look at once in a while) I'm trying to get a handle on the factors that affect pH and how those can be separate from KH and GH. I'm sorry but all I know right now is that there are cases, and not just from my own pond, where pH can swing wildly with reasonable KH in the pond.

The color being stronger in the center of the scale may mean it'll come back when the fish stops growing so fast and this is just a case of color not keeping up with growth.