retouched pictures time for a ban?

[Tom C]

How do we know for sure on some pictures? Is this one touched up?

[Tom C]

Quote: Here is one for you. This is a Momo sanke. Which colors are fudged if any?

Looks like someone was playing with the sumi a little. I have to say I don't think it helped.

[kevan]

as regards to the web you will never know for sure, you would just hope that people would be honest and that honest pictures are expected of them, if you suspect a doctored pic then ask them if it is and if they have any other pics.

although as mentioned take a look at the bowls in some of them web shots

regarding the professional retouched pictures i think something may be able to be done,

i mean if the associations who run the the big competitions and magazines as well as the koi breeders insisting on more honest pics of their koi in publications, calenders etc then i feel things could change.

kevan.

[Tom C]

Some time back I sent a picture of a koi to someone to post it for me. He cleaned the picture up so much I wish that was what the koi looked like. It's shocking how someone can clean up a picture of a OK koi into a great koi.

Tom

[kingkong]

Your right Tom, that was actually a kohaku played with. Photo editing of digital images is here to stay. If you could only see what a prof photographer does these days. Touch-up techniques are now common place and now an automatic approach to photography. Just like the Groucho Marx koi your showing. My guess the eye-brow hi is fudged.

[Bill D]

Interesting... Of course as mentioned, you see a lot of "doctored" photos in magazines, books, calenders, and on the web. However, often a straight "untouched" photo is often not representative of the koi as well. Much can and does go wrong... lighting, camera settings, etc do have an effect on the the color "renditions" of the raw picture, making a nice koi look terrible. I'm not defending the act, but do suggest that the photographer take the time to learn about lighting, equipment requirements, and camera settings to get the most realistic representation. Also, and most interesting, one computer will display colors differently than another. It appears to depend on the the display equipment, drivers, and programs used? We have a row of computers, each of which vary in configuration, and you can definately see a difference in the colors when viewing the same picture. Of course the best way to purchase is to visit the koi in person... but even then, koi do look different in various lighting conditions!

[Tom C]

kingkong said yes on the picture I posted, anyone else think it's touch up?

Tom

[Akinosan]

It looks to me that the beni on the head is a little fishy.

[keokoi]

Looks like you took it at high Noon...

I know the dealer I support doesnt use photoshop.. Just a good photographer..

and yes he is an advertiser of this board...

Joe

[aquitori]

Have to admit, you should never buy koi by picture alone...You got a point, I think the only thing you can get from looking at a pic is conformation and pattern...The quality of the shiroji should always be seen in person...