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Old 10-21-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Here's a question for you all.

Which varieties make up Go Sanke?

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"The Big Three" ;-))

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Which varieties make up Go Sanke?

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GO IS FIVE IN JAPANESE, YET GO SANKE MEANS A CHOICE OF 3 (SANKE,SHOWA, AND KOHAKU ). iN THE OLDEN GOLDEN DAYS, SHIRO UTSURI WAS INCLUDED IN THE BATCH BUT NOT ANYMORE. DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 5TH ONE WENT ( WAS PROBABLY ASAGI AS THEY'RE BETTER LOOKIN' ) lol BUT WE PULLLED EM TO GIVE THE LESSER COLOR VARIETIES A CHANCE <GRIN>
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Here's a question for you all.

Which varieties make up Go Sanke?

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Dont mind at all....
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it appeared to me for some time that the big three were in fact the big two on the whole as showa featured a great deal less when it came to winning top shows than either kohaku or sanke.

though im pleased to say that i feel showa have probably improved the most over the last 5 years or so and seem to be making a bigger and more even match for kohaku and sanke these days.

any thoughts?

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Showa is a victim of identity theft.

They should put shiro utsuri back into the big three.... or big four... or big five.

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Shiro Utsuri were never part of Go Sanke.

Any more thoughts anyone?

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During Japan's pre-industrial period, the country was ruled by a few dominant families. This elite became known collectively as the Gosanke. Application of the term to nishikigoi evokes the idea of a dominant caste on a level others cannot attain. ....I wonder if the continuing dominance of Gosanke is not enhanced by the connotation that others cannot attain the same level, resulting in less focused attention by fewer breeders on refining other varieties?
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GO IS FIVE IN JAPANESE, YET GO SANKE MEANS A CHOICE OF 3 (SANKE,SHOWA, AND KOHAKU ). iN THE OLDEN GOLDEN DAYS, SHIRO UTSURI WAS INCLUDED IN THE BATCH BUT NOT ANYMORE. DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 5TH ONE WENT ( WAS PROBABLY ASAGI AS THEY'RE BETTER LOOKIN' ) lol BUT WE PULLLED EM TO GIVE THE LESSER COLOR VARIETIES A CHANCE <GRIN>
"GO" commonly means "FIVE" in Japanese. However, in the case of Gosanke,
it does NOT mean "FIVE", it means honorable, great....

When Japan was in its isolation period, the leader of Japan has three sons. The three sons grew up and was each given a top house. The Gosanke was the original term used to describe these three top houses.

Go = honorable, great
San = three
Ke = house

As time passed, Gosanke became a more generic term for "Top Three" or "Big Three". It can apply to anything like Singers, Dancers, and Koi fish as well.

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thanks Dinh-for the culturally sensitive and explicit explaination.



wonder what Omosako-san thinks of the term <grin>
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