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Got a question about Elbagin -

Actually, I have several . . .

Elbagin is the Japanese "wonder drug", a waterborne antibiotic/antiseptic that kills gram neg (and pos) bacteria without hitting the biobugs too hard in the filter (as opposed to Tetracyline, which will decimate a filter!). So, if you have a fish that has a few dings and bruises, incipient ulcers, etc., spending a few days in a nice warm Elbagin bath is a good thing. Yes?

So, what's the protocol? How many grams per gals/tons of water? How long before a water change? Does salt help?

If you can't get your hands on Elbagin, what's the next best thing that *can* be had: Acriflavin? Furazone Green? Proflavin Hemisulfate?

TALK to me, please . . .
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What I was told By Manabu Ogata and Kevin Pham.. Elbagin..... 10 grams per ton of water.. Very good with Salt especially if treating with ulceration..




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What I was told By Manabu Ogata and Kevin Pham.. Elbagin..... 10 grams per ton of water.. Very good with Salt especially if treating with ulceration..




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Well, that's one of the questions answered! Can anyone supply answers for any of the others, especially the substitutions?

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I answered 2 questions Sorry Lee I tried

I believe BGDX can be used and also teramycin(sp?)

Trip was great as usual... Can't wait to go back in spring or maybe earlier...

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Elbagin is widely used in Japan, and I do use it occasionally.

It does not dissolve well is salted water. If the target tank is salted, first dissolve the product in fresh unsalted water.
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Elbagin is dosed at 10 grams per ton of water or 264 US gallons. I was told Elbagin will kick your filters butt, so be careful. I'm sure if you talk to the right people you can get it in the US. I got some years ago from someone.
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Yes, I've received some as a gift. But when someone else needs it, I wondered what was available that could be had Stateside.

Elbagin is supposedly gram neg/pos specific. There may be some impact on the filter, but not to the point that it is decimated.

Of course, I haven't had to use it yet, so I don't know from first hand experience. I have a LOT of stuff I haven't used yet (and hope I never HAVE to!) - but want it on hand. We all know that when you need it, it's too late to order it.

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