GC cosmetic surgery?

[gregbickal]

I had this 5 year old Sanke get a scrape on his head. Took off a dime size of Hi on his head. It didn't come back (as seen in this photo).

I had the same thing happen to one of my Nogami Kohaku's that I bought last year, and it did go back to red (see link). Im guessing the koi's young age helped it to heal from this? Either that or it was a shallower scrape?

http://www.koi-bito.com/forum/attach...achmentid=3859

[bekko]

Greg, I had the same thing happen to a kohaku. The fish was given to me and I don't know the age, but suspect she was at least four or five at the time. The beni came back in abour a year. She is two-step with relatively thick beni. That old sow is the most dependable and prolific breeder I have, but she does not carry her eggs well, has a pot belly most of the year and doesn't seem capable of growing past about 24 inches.

-steve hop

[jjkon]

Greg,

How long did it take to get the red back? Thanks

John

[gregbickal]

Steve: I have a egg laden Mettalic that is having the same problem right now. So full of eggs, she flops from side to side as she swims. Pathetic to watch. When she lays in the spring she will look like a fat person who has lost hundreds of pounds.... Wrinkled skin.

John: It took less than 10 months. Didn't notice it until I compared pictures. That kohaku grew quite a bit this year. The injury was from her jumping against a spash guard (days after it arrived in early January 2005)

[jjkon]

Thanks Greg,

I have a kohaku that losed a red scale 7 months ago and the red has not come back yet. I hope it will come back soon!

John

[gregbickal]

A whole scale is much different than a little Hi on the skin on the head. I have a Matsuba that lost a few scales in spawning and they have not come back yet. And for that kind of a koi, it really ruins it.

[Regenmeneer]

I've heard that in a major Koi Show in Japan, a Tancho was disqualified for being altered. Can't think of where I heard or read this, but can anyone confirm this?

Also heard that a lot off tancho have been altered? Anyone on that?

I have this Oofuchi Kujaku that swam down the skimmer line to try and swim back through the bottom drain line. It was severely damaged, but has recovered remarkably. But on the back, just in front of the fin, the hi has been scraped of, and there is now a white patch. Will this return to beni? Also, some scales were scraped during this escapade, and although they were not lost, the matsuba pattern has gone an returned only slightly untill now (this all happened the 30th of April). Will the matsuba pattern return to the scales?

Thanx

Regenmeneer

[joe bauer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Regenmeneer I've heard that in a major Koi Show in Japan, a Tancho was disqualified for being altered. Can't think of where I heard or read this, but can anyone confirm this? Regenmeneer

Also heard that a lot off tancho have been altered? Anyone on that?

I have this Oofuchi Kujaku that swam down the skimmer line to try and swim back through the bottom drain line. It was severely damaged, but has recovered remarkably. But on the back, just in front of the fin, the hi has been scraped of, and there is now a white patch. Will this return to beni? Also, some scales were scraped during this escapade, and although they were not lost, the matsuba pattern has gone an returned only slightly untill now (this all happened the 30th of April). Will the matsuba pattern return to the scales?

Thanx


it looks to me, after reading this thread, that although the entire pattern can be altered, changing the pattern on the head is the easiest. so theorhetically you could take that big kohaku that lost all of his hi except on his head, and make him an awsome tancho.

now i guess that would be allright if you were doing it to your own fish to improve it and thereby improve the hobby, but if you were intending to increase the value of the fish and then sell it or show it, that just seems wrong.

anyone know someone who can do this proceedure?