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Old 02-28-2006   #11 (permalink)
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I think bacterial will stick to almost anything its just how efficient it is that counts
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hey BB

Thats what EA claims, so not really my simplistic theory, if you look at any plastic media the inside of the media does not physically touch other media surrounding it, though of course large particles can get in the void but these are suppose to be taken out prehand.

I have no doubt that the biofilm produces areas of protected zones and that forces applied to the media are not constant, but dont forget most of the self cleaning of all plastic media is the actual physical shearing of the biofilm when they come in contact to each other when submerged i dont believe the biofilm of the media gets sheared by the force of the water flow through the filter. Although some of the biofilm does shear of naturally this would not be the main route that the biofilm on the media gets sheared in a fluid bed. This is a different case in a large shower where the weight of water is continuosly dropped on the biofilm.

As I said before BB this is what EA says and I am in reality questioning it and asking others what they think of the whole proposed mechanism. I make no assumptions BB, I have only proposed ideas. And I have not said that these ideas are correct and thus am asking for public opinion. Hopefully you can add more now that you know i am not assuming anything. I am not for or against this proposed mechanism but just trying to understand it.

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I think bacterial will stick to almost anything its just how efficient it is that counts
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Tewa

I am trying to understand it myself. I think through what sounds logical and I have to admit I am scratching my head a little.

Is there an online version of the brochure?

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hey mate

Previously they had other pdf brochure that had more detail about K2 and K3, i thought i had downloaded it, had a look but couldn find it.

I was given a brochure from a New Zealand company that builds aquaculture farms, they sell just about everything thats where my black media comes from. The brochure stated that static media can trap up to 50% of 5 micron particles.

So thats why it seemed to me the idea of developing a media that would basically create a static media like environment and used in a fluidised environment was basically like expanding the static media component of a filter system. This is an attempt to understand through my logic. I should probably speak to the new zealand people to get the answer, but sometimes its fun trying to work it out ourselves on a hobbyist level

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Tewa, you are correct in thinking that the same type of creatures live in Bacteria House Media.



But the difference is EA have found a media which can house them is a Fluidized situation. These tiny little squares within the BioChips form a safe haven for these guys, where the 'water wash' is not too strong to flush them off.



These little 'Micro Animals' as EA call them consume sub 5 micron particles, thus improving water clarity in time, as this is the type of particles which cannot be trapped and makes the water look cloudy if enough accumulates.

In their video clip these creatures can be seen reaching out and grabbing passing particle matter.



So although other medias are capable of housing these creatures, the Bio Chip is the only one as far as I'm aware that is able to in a Fluidized situation. Thus making their small footprint filter more efficient.

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hey maurice

Thanks for chipping in, and confirming my thoughts. By the way love the idea of your forum i check it out everyday to see whats going on.

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Tewa, you are correct in thinking that the same type of creatures live in Bacteria House Media.



But the difference is EA have found a media which can house them is a Fluidized situation. These tiny little squares within the BioChips form a safe haven for these guys, where the 'water wash' is not too strong to flush them off.



These little 'Micro Animals' as EA call them consume sub 5 micron particles, thus improving water clarity in time, as this is the type of particles which cannot be trapped and makes the water look cloudy if enough accumulates.

In their video clip these creatures can be seen reaching out and grabbing passing particle matter.



So although other medias are capable of housing these creatures, the Bio Chip is the only one as far as I'm aware that is able to in a Fluidized situation. Thus making their small footprint filter more efficient.

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Out of curiosity, won't jmat have similar void spaces with similar 'animals' growing and thriving on the same particles? Especially if stacked back to back?
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