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Old 03-04-2006   #11 (permalink)
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1st thing is spot a problem fish in the beginning, the fact is that Hikkui starts in fish 5 years of age and in some cases younger.

2nd water quality, water conditions are taught to make the disease spread more if the water isnt in top quality.

3rd no cure, only topical agents can be applied to control the spread, but never cured.

4th get rid of the fish and start new(learning experience) or maybe stop buying from that bloodline fish. i.e. Jimbei bloodline fish are known to get Hikkui when they get older but that it isnt to say other bloodlines arent prone to get it.
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Old 03-04-2006   #12 (permalink)
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With as many people who are posting on this thread why would you want to "keep a secret" and not try to assist ANYONE who has the terrible problem. Granted, it may not work for EVERYONE, but if it helps 25% of us folks, isn't it worth providing the info?

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I will call the good doctor Ward and relay the herb in question. It is in the garage..... BTW, Is it in liquid or powder form? You can't use my rum Doug.
My koi that are hurting are a Momotaro showa (put down with rash that spread over 10% of body) , 2 Jimbei Sanke (red hi) and one Matsunosuke (persimmon hi kohaku).
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Old 03-04-2006   #14 (permalink)
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Ohhh Now Gary.. NOT a blowMoTireOtire ! God forbid !

Koizar.
Lemme see what I can do for Gary before I blow my trumpet and show my azz !
I am NOT a " vet" well ,I am, but not a DmV, like the authorz of Da Bookies...
We wont leave you galz hanging...

I care for at LEAST 7 fish, so I am an expert, without any formal documentation..
G.. Just got in.. I'll call now...
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After talking to Doug and a little reading this thought came by so makes some sense. Just here me out please.
Small amounts of Dioxins, a hazadous compound, are produced naturally forest fires, volcanoes. The majority of Dioxins are a result of human industrial process such as production of certain herbicides, waste inceneration, pulp processing at paper mills, agriculture sprays and many others.
Each individual, humans now, seem to have their own tolerance levels. But Dioxins are documented to build up in fish flesh as well.
Now, the most common acute effect of Dioxin exposure on Humans is, chloracne, a severe skin rash characterized by acne-like lesions.
So that would explain the hit or miss concept. Would take a certain amount of time in the life of a fish to show tolerance level or lack of. Shows in the form of acne-like lesions. Some towns or ponds may be in closer contact with such toxins.
If this is the case, indoor or roofed ponds would have less chance for cotamination perhaps. Just a thought.
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Not looking for a professional prescription, but I understand your dilemma. Let us know ASAP ic you can..

Thanks

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Here's one you might want to try, which I have tried on Akinosan's Jimbei Sanke(which I gave to him)...Wiped infected area dry, got PP powder and rubbed it into the infected area and haven't seen it come back one bit. There are many ways of treating it, change of diet more vegetable protein than animal...
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Hikkui is the most mis- diagnosed skin affliction in the industry... NOT KOI.. Thats an infatuation !
Well. The number one mis-diagnosed is.. PUT YOUR BATTLE GEAR ON !
KHV !!!!!!!!!!!!!
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
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Learn the microscope.
" hint" NOT at a seminar................ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
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OHHHHH.
BTW.
I dont have a mindset like the Koi Expert of the planet.Mdv..Dmv.. Whatever.........

I'm going for a grouper sandwich( with cole slaw) and then terrorizzze some other forums.\
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