It's Name That Pattern Time Again

[Sangreaal]

Well okay, humor me again, please. What do you call this pattern?



Marie

[Akinosan]

That would be your basic schlong pattern!

[keokoi]

That is from the "Video koi gone wild" that particular Kohak is sponsored by .....V-I-A-G-R-A...

[aquitori]

Schlong? In Akinosan termanology that means....Yondan Now my question would be, is it a menkaburi or kuchibeni. What would be the proper discription?

[koiczar]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori Schlong? In Akinosan termanology that means....Yondan Now my question would be, is it a menkaburi or kuchibeni. What would be the proper discription?

Tony

I don't really think of it as either. Kuchibeni should actually "touch" the lip area to be considered "lipstick". It looks more like a maruten 4 step (yondan) pattern.

Having said that there are different schools of thought on what validates a "step" in a pattern. Some say if the area of hi does not cross the dorsal line it is not a step. Some say it is. What say you all!!???

[cocoyboy]

I think your addickted to the pattern alone maybe? Should be better when the pattern is up!

[kingkong]

That is a well-shaped male Tategoi. Note the hi marking on the head. Very impressive.

[Sangreaal]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori Schlong? In Akinosan termanology that means....Yondan Now my question would be, is it a menkaburi or kuchibeni. What would be the proper discription?

Kaku Tan or Kutsubera? It's not menkaburi--menkaburi is hi that covers the eyes. It's not kuchibeni, because the hi doesn't touch the lips. It's not really maruten, because the hi isn't basically round. Kaku tan is a squarish marking on the face, which it might be, but I'm not sure. Kutsubera seems to come closest, but without a reference pic of what kutsubera is, again, I'm not sure.

Now you suggest it is a yondan pattern, but I only see two hi plates instead of four, unless the lone marking on the face is a step and the lone dot of hi on the tail tube is a step. What constitutes a step, anyway?

And this brings me to my next question: Will this pattern grow with the koi like a generous swelling of pride, or will it appear to shrink in size as the koi ages--will it keep its same shape or will it "blossom" as it develops? And...

...do you think it might make an impression in the 9-10" size class at the Sacramento show? (whatever class this size koi would be shown in?)

Marie<----barely BARELY keeping a straight face

[PapaBear]

I'm thinking Yondan.

Quote: Originally Posted by kingkong That is a well-shaped male Tategoi. Note the hi marking on the head. Very impressive.

Which Head?

It is an interesting Kohungwell pattern. With a bit of well placed Sumi it would have produced an interesting Goromore spesemen. I wonder... if it were an Ochiba would it become a Shag-ure?

[luke frisbee]

that is a Dickan pattern with kuchigasm