How many Koi hobbyist started with an Aquascape style pond

[Sangreaal]

LOL! You mean like this?



Oh I was sooo proud of that 6' x 5' x 16" puddle way back then, overstocked with a gazillion doomed baby Walmart koi, mulmed to the max for the plants and no filtration!

Marie

[B.Scott]

I actually did alot of research before I built my pond. At the time I thought it was the best pond I could have. As the years passed I found areas the really needed changing/improving. Since my Easter rebuilt I an sure I am much better off than I was.

B.Scott

[UnkleTim]

One of the very first ponds that I considered building was one of those aquascape ponds. But then...the miracle of discussion boards on the internet showed me the error of my ways. They are very pretty ponds most of the time, but the maintenence.....argh, no thanks! And....since I decided on koi...no way Jose was I to put one in! Unk

[jnorth]

Wasn't there a lawsuit recently involving a rock bottomed koi pond?

[Nancy M.]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnorth Wasn't there a lawsuit recently involving a rock bottomed koi pond?

Yes, Jim
There was a recent lawsuit her in SoCal. The people that were suing AS, were offered a $30,000 pond by the pond builders of America to drop the lawsuit against AS on the 3rd day of the trial go figure.. A friend of mine went and found there website, it just looks like another AS website. Now my friend spent days working on gathering information for this court case(my friends qualifications as an expert on koi pond biuilding and filtration cannot be denied) he and my husband were both witnesses for the couple. AS flew in Doc J as a witness, I was surprised at what Doc J, testified to. Doc J also receives a $2000 a month fee from AS. The sad part is that this couple, I believe would have won the case, and would have been fully compensated for the original pond. Otherwise AS would not have had this organization pond builders of America, step in and offer to build them this new garbage pond. AS got scared and did not want this to become public knowledge or record. The couple did take the deal offered to them.
Now AS still has a clean record against lawsuits, so they can continue to build watergarden features and call them koi ponds.
I think the part that upsets me the most is that, these people would have won, and AS would have been forced to change there marketing to water garden features. Instead they will go on selling to innocent people beautiful watergardens and the worse koi pond ever. This case would have set a precedent, and they just could not let that happen.. What a shame more innocent people will be sucked into there BS.

[Nancy M.]

Is it moving up now?

[jnorth]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nancy M. Is it moving up now?

Seems to be

[koiczar]

Nancy

I agree 1000%. Somebody needs to follow through with a lawsuit against their claims about their crapaponds being for koi. If a customer (or a poster here on Bito) has contracted with a Landscape Contractor, such as the one Nancy mentioned above, to have them build a "koi pond" only to find out it is the standard AS crapapond, then they have a case. I'm sure dozens of members of this board would not hesitate to witnesses for the claimant. I sure as hell would. I'm tired of hearing their BS speil and I'm tired of seeing people ripped off for their good, hard-earned money!!

If you go to one of their pond building seminars, one of the final things they tell you as a contractor is "basically", get in, get out and GET PAID!! That's their philosophy. Want them to build you a pond??!!!????