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Old 09-27-2006   #21 (permalink)
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1st culling photos

Okay, and humble thanks for the encouragement. I don't crave more than to do this for my satisfaction and hopefully to learn, be challenged and have some fun while making a living. I write that down and it seems quite a bit to ask. It's a worthwhile goal. The art of koi is so intriguing and multidimensional. You pour yourself into this entirely and just scratch the surface. Koi are a three dimensional living canvas moving in time and themselves in a three dimensional world. All things with koi are ever changing. They are a dynamic canvas which requires so many disciplines to master, manage and care for. They are a work of art that is never finished, never perfect. It's the promise of what might be that keeps it new.

Kevan- On the brood stock I'll see what I can come up with in terms of breeding pair photos tomorrow and try to fill in some details. It's a little murky and my brood stock are young. I'm not settled by any means on a few pairs of fish. I'm still very much picking through each year's fish and keeping the best while retiring older fish which I am no longer satisfied with. I'll give you more details in another post.

Papa Bear, Mike M- On the water, I pull my water from several wells that tap into a very shallow aquifer running under the San Joaquin River. Our farm is perched on the banks of the river on some of the richest alluvial soil in the entire San Joaquin Valley. Good water, good drainage, fertile soil and favorable weather for raising koi have made Fresno a good location for my operation. But, you have hit it on the head when you say water quality management. That is my foremost concern. A healthy fish is the first prerequisite for a quality fish.

Marie- I got to meet you one of these days. I love your enthusiasm and artistic heart, but koi shows and meeting other Breeders is going to have to wait for another time.

Koiczar- I really appreciate your critique and that of the others. I took some photos of a handful of fish (mostly kohaku this week) that I culled today. In looking at the fish you will see that we don't mimic the Japanese in how we manage our farm. These fish are more mature than what the Japanese work with on their first culls. I have adapted my techniques for my unique conditions. I don't know if you have ever had the chance to look at a breeders bowl during culling. What you see can tell you a lot about me, my farm and how I raise the fish. This is a photo I would love to see from some quality farms in Japan if anyone has one.



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Richard . . .

though not on point, there's an interesting thread on NI entitled "Harvesting in Carolina" that you might enjoy:

http://members4.boardhost.com/koimag/
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Some Brood Stock Pairings

Okay kevan, here is the back ground on my brood stock. I've dabbled with koi spawns since '86 and opened my own farm in '92. I worked the farm part time and kept my job as a Fisheries Biologist to pay the bills. The back bone of my bloodlines came from Grant Fujita. I purchased a modest number of Kohaku and Sanke from his ponds when he was in the business. Beautiful fish one and all. The Kohaku were from the Dainichi farm and the Sanke were Jinbei. I am a lousy record keeper and don't have the photos of the original fish. I didn't see the reason at the time. I didn't even know if I'd like the fish or not. There have been several additions since then but mostly dead ends. I am not tied down to a particular group of brood stock yet. I am very active in turning over the fish and honing in on the qualities I like best in each. Here are a few photos of this years pairings.

By the way. I sure would like to contact Grant again. Does anyone have an email address or number. If you do can you email me at fish_maker@yahoo.com. I'd really appreciate it.







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Thank You Don

I did enjoy the link. Interesting to see what other farms are doing and to hear other's perspective about domestic breeders. I think that the one post said it the best. It's not Domestic vs. Japanese. It's comparing koi to other koi. Let the best man or fish win and so far that means Japanese.
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Hey Rich will you be at the Bakersfield Show?
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Aquitori (how about lunch)

Aquitori- No Bakersfield koi show for me, but I am going to stop off at the Fresno show in the afternoon to see what's up. It's only a ten minute drive from the farm and I can afford to take an afternoon off. Any chance you'd make it? I'd buy you lunch and could show you my humble operation.
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Meet my crew

This is us.



fish (me) with little fish (no assigned duties)



princess fish (shipping department)



mother fish (office manager) with little fish (still no duties / notice attraction to whale)



hawley smith (eminently qualified puller of ponds)
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Looks like a fine bunch of Tategoi in the home office (In a few years you'll need a security fence around your cute little Princess )
From the way you describe your Oyagoi it sounds like you are formulating your own bloodlines in an accellerated version of the Japanese model. The offspring you've been producing seem to indicate you've been making good choices along the way . I see several fry in your culling pix that are very appealing
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I not building a security fence just a moat around the house. As much to keep her in as anything the little scamp. She's a handful.

It is an accelerated program for sure, but I'm open to bringing in fresh blood. I'd have to go to Japan myself to find it and that ain't happening soon.
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What a beautiful family, Richard! *big grin* It is so nice to put faces to the names and personalities met on the internet, to see vignettes of the real live people who type the words we read and get to know them from. That, and compare our ideas of what the author of the words we've gotten to know one by looks like in our mind's eye vs. reality.

I thought you'd be taller.

*LOL* J/K

Anyway, thank you for the introduction to the people that share your personal bubble. Someday I'll share pics of myself and the family I have on this farm to properly introduce myself. Just ordered camera #3, and they say third time's a charm, so maybe that'll be sooner than later. *L*

And so that is the entire cast and crew of San Joaquin Koi? My goodness you people must be swamped (pun intended) right now. No wonder you don't have time to make it to the Sac show. You have your hands full!

Those fry pics--are they from this year or last? Reason being, I think I see a baby Songen (my biggest kohak from you) in there...

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