Learning Nishikigoi

[lildude]

Quote: Originally Posted by PapaBear Trouble??? What trouble? You are learning about more than Koi here lil'dude . Your sensei is teaching you about life as well... appreciating them together makes both much better. Do you deserve to be in the presence of your teachers??? Of course you do! You were invited Pride (aka "false humility") would decline the invitation, but a humble spirit gratefully accepts it grasshoppa'

Im a bit confused on what you said. could you please clarify?\

Ok well I guess I have to be more humble, and learn harder.
I wish I could get some Hands on learning, its my dream to sein a mud pond, Hmm In due time I guess I will.
I really want to get kokugyo for xmas, my mom said she would get it for me. I know I will benefit a lot from it, but no where near the amount I have benefited from you all.
I remember the day kari taught me how to anestetize a koi, I was scared the first time i did it, because I knew if they stayed in too long I can kill it, but its super easy now, I kinda feel like a doctor. Haha

Ok Im ready to get back to learning, well heck I just learned something...

I think my new signature is more appropriate.

[PapaBear]

You aren't in trouble, just learning more than you knew

[Bob Winkler]

I am glad the others answered... they are right Seito.. You are not in trouble... just learning... You so far have gotten a crash course on koi information that took me much much longer to get my mind around. That is what you asked for, if I am not mistaken. Don't take what I say as harsh, but I do get more direct if the lesson does not get through. (Said nicely)

[lildude]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Winkler I am glad the others answered... they are right Seito.. You are not in trouble... just learning... You so far have gotten a crash course that has taken me much much longer to get my mind around. That is what you asked for, if I am not mistaken. Don't take what I say as harsh, but I do get more direct if the lesson does not get through. (Said nicely)

Hmmmmmm well what do you want to do sensei?
I guess I did do this to myself. I want to become a better person because of this.

[Bob Winkler]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilhelper Hmmmmmm well what do you want to do sensei? I guess I did do this to myself. I want to become a better person because of this.

What next? we shall go over conformation with pictures a bit more.... Stay tuned, or ask more questions.

[lildude]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Winkler What next? we shall go over conformation with pictures a bit more.... Stay tuned, or ask more questions.

Sugoi ne!!!!
Ok
A question I have is how does one develope an eye for koi that most experience people have? I am trying to see what people claim to see, it is very very hard hard to do, I want to so bad, but its extremely hard. I kind of feel like in am in a whirlpool, spinning, spinning, spinning.....

[jnorth]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Winkler I have drawings but not enough pictures of poor conformation. Or actually, since really poor conformation is easy to differentiate, I am looking more for mediocre conformation pix and great to perfect examples to illustrate his points... Until tomorrow

Check my website.....I'm sure you will find some .

[aquitori]

Quick question, would anyone think Joe Montana learned how to throw the football if he had the internet back then?

Live life and live your hobby....

[koiczar]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilhelper Sugoi ne!!!! Ok A question I have is how does one develope an eye for koi that most experience people have? I am trying to see what people claim to see, it is very very hard hard to do, I want to so bad, but its extremely hard. I kind of feel like in am in a whirlpool, spinning, spinning, spinning.....

Aaahhhhh, Grasshoppa

You have answered your own question. Developing "the eye" for koi takes much time and patience - this equals EXPERIENCE!!!!!

[Tamianth]

Thanks Lil for getting this started. Its really been a interesting and learning read for this person.

Mr Winkler, as the forums renegade and proud owner, daring to be different, of strictly longfins, I loved the way you put it! I agree they are not Nishikigoi, and yes, the argument is a old one. But tell me, how do folks figure that they are not carp? Does not Koi & Goi both denote "carp" in definition as a overall coverage of all the species of and not as a independant? I would have thought that as independant names go Nishiki and longfin (sorry, I do not know japanese Kudos to Lil on that score! ) would be a more refined and finished way of denoting the differences.

Perhaps it is a strange way, or advanced way, for me to look at this, but then again, as you aptly put it, it takes time and even the Doitsu had to find their place....

I like your touch of humor, you had me grinning!