If you were given 1 full day of talking to one breeder, who would it be?

[lildude]

Matsunosuke, and this time I wouldnt freeze up.

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilhelper Matsunosuke, and this time I wouldnt freeze up.

Which Matsunosuke, Toshio Sakai, Toshiyuki Sakai or Miwa Sakai ? HAHAHAHAHA If you pick Miwa I'll have to call you lil'devil instead of lil' dude...hahahaha

[Brutuscz]

If he were still alive..definitely Mano of Dainichi. He was truly a master...I'm sure he could have really given an education to a hatchling like myself. I would also like to meet Sekko...to dedicate your whole life to one, specific type of koi(shiro utsuri) takes incredible focus. I'm sure at this point in his career he has plenty to teach us all about koi-keeping.

[lildude]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori Which Matsunosuke, Toshio Sakai, Toshiyuki Sakai or Miwa Sakai ? HAHAHAHAHA If you pick Miwa I'll have to call you lil'devil instead of lil' dude...hahahaha

Toshio Sakai, I wanted to talk to Miwa, but I was'nt sure if she spoke english or not, Me and my dad though she was wicked stylin'.

Who's Toshiyuki sakai? Matsunosuke's son?

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilhelper Toshio Sakai, I wanted to talk to Miwa, but I was'nt sure if she spoke english or not, Me and my dad though she was wicked stylin'. Who's Toshiyuki sakai? Matsunosuke's son?

History:

Toshiyuki Saki is the elder brother of Toshio. In Japanese tradition the eldest son inheirited the farm(Toshiyuki Sakai). i.e. the auction that Russ had visited for the Auction. The farm name is Yamamatsu. That farm is known for producing GoSanke and some mixed stuff here and there. In the past couple of years Toshiyuki hasnt been in the best of health.

When we talk about Matsunosuke we talk about the "New Matsunosuke" bloodline that the brothers have developed using the Magoi bloodline many years ago. In the past years, many other breeders are now using the "New Matsunosuke" or Magoi Bloodline to improve their Sanke stocks..i.e. Momotaro and many other breeders in Niigata.

There is a breeder now making his own Magoi(white magoi) line Sanke..I think you have read Mr. Ray Jordan mention the breeder Koi no Yohei.

[dechoong]

I'm crazy over kohaku, so I'll say Hiroji Sakai... if only I could speak Japanese

-Dennis

[aquitori]

Yeah, Sakai Hiroshima would be one of the other guys I would like to pick their brain on his Kohak. In my honest opinion they can produce Kohak at every level and size of competition and have proven it.

[dechoong]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori History: There is a breeder now making his own Magoi(white magoi) line Sanke..I think you have read Mr. Ray Jordan mention the breeder Koi no Yohei.

Talk about Yohei, anybody here has any experience with their hybrids? I've a Yohei kohaku (a young sansai) >70cm but looks slim for its size. It's quite a big eater but just wouldn't put on girth... not sure what to do with it .

-Dennis

[lildude]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori History: Toshiyuki Saki is the elder brother of Toshio. In Japanese tradition the eldest son inheirited the farm(Toshiyuki Sakai). i.e. the auction that Russ had visited for the Auction. The farm name is Yamamatsu. That farm is known for producing GoSanke and some mixed stuff here and there. In the past couple of years Toshiyuki hasnt been in the best of health. When we talk about Matsunosuke we talk about the "New Matsunosuke" bloodline that the brothers have developed using the Magoi bloodline many years ago. In the past years, many other breeders are now using the "New Matsunosuke" or Magoi Bloodline to improve their Sanke stocks..i.e. Momotaro and many other breeders in Niigata. There is a breeder now making his own Magoi(white magoi) line Sanke..I think you have read Mr. Ray Jordan mention the breeder Koi no Yohei.

So is it bad to refer him as matsunosuke?
What is wrong with toshiyuki sakai, cancer or something?

Koi no yohei? that means "Koi's Holdover", or like "Kois evil", What does it really mean. I can only translate Litterally, it could have another meaning.

What is the biggest variety of Common Carp, as in...Is there anything bigger than magoi? I get the impression that toshio sakai somewhat gets the popularity over toshiyuki.
Does toshio have a son to inherit the farm? I view toshio sakai as one of the most knowledgeable persons in koi. Yeah sure there may be others, but the sakai brothers are really changing the world.

[dechoong]

Quote: Originally Posted by lilhelper So is it bad to refer him as matsunosuke?

Matsunosuke is simply the name of a sanke bloodline created by the Sakai brothers. The Matsunosuke sanke was so successful that it shot them to fame. The name of the farm is Yamamatsu. I only learn of this about 2 years ago... before that I thought the name of the farm is Matsunosuke

It's just like the Sakura bloodline from Sakai Hiroshima that spawn the now famous Rose line of kohaku.

-Dennis