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Old 11-15-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Federal Order Re: Viral Hemoraggic Septicemia

While some would swear this order cannot be extended to koi maybe it could. Some of those effected by this ban also sell koi. This certainly has an impact on domestic koi breeders and their customers and we will speak with one on the KoiCluboftheAir.org broadcast this week.


USDA PROHIBITS IMPORTS FROM TWO CANADIAN PROVINCES AND INTERSTATE MOVEMENTS FROM EIGHT STATES OF FISH SUSCEPTIBLE TO VIRAL HEMORRHAGIC SEPTICEMIA

WASHINGTON, Oct. 24, 2006--The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service issued an emergency order today prohibiting the importation of certain species of live fish from two Canadian provinces into the United States and the interstate movement of the same species from the eight states bordering the Great Lakes due to outbreaks of viral hemorrhagic septicemia (VHS).
This action is in response to the rapid spread of VHS in the Great Lakes region and the potential impact on a growing number of fish species. VHS is a destructive pathogen that produces clinical signs in fish including internal hemorrhaging and death. The disease does not pose a risk to people, but it has been found to affect a number of fish species previously not known to be susceptible including baitfish species, Coho salmon and channel catfish.
In addition to prohibiting the importation of certain species of live fish from Ontario and Quebec, Canada, the interstate movement of these species will also be prohibited from New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

Dead and diseased wild fish have been reported in Lakes Ontario, St. Clair and Erie as well as the St. Lawrence River. An outbreak was also reported last month in fish from New York’s Conesus Lake, a body of water in the Great Lakes watershed but without direct connection to the lower Great Lakes. It is not known how this disease arrived in the Great Lakes area, but APHIS will continue to monitor the situation and take whatever actions are necessary to control its spread.
With the number of the potentially susceptible fish species still growing, new fish species affected by this emergency order will be updated as necessary to prevent the further spread of this disease. For a complete list of live fish included in the emergency order, please visit our Web site at www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/aqua/.

The emergency order putting these protections in place can be found on our Website at http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/aqua/. An interim rule is anticipated to be enacted in early 2007 detailing the new requirements.
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Old 11-15-2006   #2 (permalink)
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APHIS modified the order today to...

"allow Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to move interstate live species of fish susceptible to viral hemorrhagic septicemia (VHS) if they can meet certain conditions designed to prevent the spread of the disease...[snip]...and to alleviate the impact of the Federal Order on industry and related businesses in the Great Lakes region while still protecting against the spread of VHS to other areas of the country."

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Where is said mod APHIS mod published?

I've reviewed the newsreleases of APHIS this morning and see nothing of this modification. Can you provide a source?

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APHIS modified the order today to...

"allow Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to move interstate live species of fish susceptible to viral hemorrhagic septicemia (VHS) if they can meet certain conditions designed to prevent the spread of the disease...[snip]...and to alleviate the impact of the Federal Order on industry and related businesses in the Great Lakes region while still protecting against the spread of VHS to other areas of the country."

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Might be this one

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/aqua/pd...gc-changes.pdf

and this one

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/c...6/11/vhs.shtml

Both are dated 11/14/06
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Federal Order VHS Update

Terrific timely material. Thanks for the update, which will help tremendously in our discussion with Mike Robinson of Keystone Hatcheries this afternoon about the likely impacts of the reg and how best the industry and hobbyist can adjust themselves and coordinate to best serve our common interests, which include the country as a whole.

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It turns out this 'threat' thread . . .

was completely without merit. And since 'Hot Air' Hawley apparently doesn't do retractions, here's the skinny -- which Lynne (Eluned) was kind enought to post on KoiShack yesterday:

According to the US Fish and Wildlife Service:

Host Susceptibility
In Europe, epizootics of VHS occur primarily in rainbow trout, Oncorhynchus mykiss; brown trout, Salmo trutta; and to a lesser extent in northern pike, Esox lucius (Jorgensen 1980; Meier and Jorgensen 1980). Natural infections have also occurred in grayling, Thymallus thymallus, and whitefish Coregonus sp. (Wizigmann et al. 1980; Ahne and Thomsen 1985; Meier et al. 1986). Outbreaks of VHS have been suspected in pollan, Coregonus lavaretus, and lake trout, Salvelinus namaycush. In the United States, natural infections have been diagnosed in chinook salmon, O. tshawytscha; coho salmon, O. kisutch; and steelhead (searun rainbow trout).

Fish shown by experimental challenge to be susceptible to VHS virus infection are Atlantic salmon, Salmo salar; brook trout, Salvelinus fontinalis; golden trout, O. aguabonita; rainbow trout x coho salmon hybrids; giebel, Carassius auratus gibelio; sea bass, Dicentrarchus labrax; and turbot, Scophthalmus maximus (de Kinkelin and Castric 1982; Castric and de Kinkelin 1984; Wolf 1988). Fish shown by experimental challenges to be refractory to VHS virus infection are common carp, Cyprinus carpio; chub, Leuciscus cephalus; Eurasian perch, Perca fluviatilis; roach, L. rutilus; and tench, Tinca tinca.

I should really give the credit to Roddy, even though he initially misunderstood the term refractory to mean that carp were susceptible.
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Better Than Retractions

No Don,
I won't take back what the president's of Blackwater Creek Koi Farms and Keystone Hatcheries said, but I did publish this information along with the stories at www.koicluboftheair.org and thank Lynne.

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was completely without merit. And since 'Hot Air' Hawley apparently doesn't do retractions, here's the skinny -- which Lynne (Eluned) was kind enought to post on KoiShack yesterday:

According to the US Fish and Wildlife Service:

Host Susceptibility
In Europe, epizootics of VHS occur primarily in rainbow trout, Oncorhynchus mykiss; brown trout, Salmo trutta; and to a lesser extent in northern pike, Esox lucius (Jorgensen 1980; Meier and Jorgensen 1980). Natural infections have also occurred in grayling, Thymallus thymallus, and whitefish Coregonus sp. (Wizigmann et al. 1980; Ahne and Thomsen 1985; Meier et al. 1986). Outbreaks of VHS have been suspected in pollan, Coregonus lavaretus, and lake trout, Salvelinus namaycush. In the United States, natural infections have been diagnosed in chinook salmon, O. tshawytscha; coho salmon, O. kisutch; and steelhead (searun rainbow trout).

Fish shown by experimental challenge to be susceptible to VHS virus infection are Atlantic salmon, Salmo salar; brook trout, Salvelinus fontinalis; golden trout, O. aguabonita; rainbow trout x coho salmon hybrids; giebel, Carassius auratus gibelio; sea bass, Dicentrarchus labrax; and turbot, Scophthalmus maximus (de Kinkelin and Castric 1982; Castric and de Kinkelin 1984; Wolf 1988). Fish shown by experimental challenges to be refractory to VHS virus infection are common carp, Cyprinus carpio; chub, Leuciscus cephalus; Eurasian perch, Perca fluviatilis; roach, L. rutilus; and tench, Tinca tinca.

I should really give the credit to Roddy, even though he initially misunderstood the term refractory to mean that carp were susceptible.
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So . . .

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No Don,
I won't take back what the president's of Blackwater Creek Koi Farms and Keystone Hatcheries said, but I did publish this information along with the stories at www.koicluboftheair.org and thank Lynne.
is it responsible journalism to stir the pot with your thread on Bito, then print the retraction on your website? ROFLMAO

Oh, and as for what 'they' said, they were responding to questions you asked them. The fact that they were as ill-informed on the subject as you is not an excuse since you're the one that sent them down the wrong road in the first place.

John, you got off on the wrong foot here spinning that botched Burt Ballou dinner table conversation -- and you're still hopping on it!
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Retraction?
I recieved the info via the same AES industry news that those in the business recieve. Retract what? Retract the concerns expressed in statements of Mike Robinson at Keystone Hatcheries and others in the effected region? Retract the concerns of many others in the industry?
You bring up an important point though about the need for updates on breaking industry news and examining retraction policies.
I'll post something maybe in flashing red that notes carp are a VHS refractory species. Of course I can do this with more ease than pubs like PondKeeper and Koi USA. What are their retraction policies?

BTW: You are quite a pot stirrer yourself.

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is it responsible journalism to stir the pot with your thread on Bito, then print the retraction on your website? ROFLMAO

Oh, and as for what 'they' said, they were responding to questions you asked them. The fact that they were as ill-informed on the subject as you is not an excuse since you're the one that sent them down the wrong road in the first place.

John, you got off on the wrong foot here spinning that botched Burt Ballou dinner table conversation -- and you're still hopping on it!
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Especially for Don,...http://www.koicluboftheair.org/refractory.swf
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