What does the USDA Vet look for in shipments?

[Nancy M.]

Quote: Originally Posted by koiczar How many of you think that the Aphis program is aware of which countries are able to qualify to send their fish in our direction without proper testing. This is amazing. I had a feeling a few countries would try to illegally "sneak" fish through with phoney certification forms, but I really did think we'd have been smart enough to have all this figured out before hand, investigate and seize these shipments as they come through. Yeah, the "mouth of the ionosphere" has tried to taint everything and everyone(shows where journalistic license has gone). Personally, I think it would be just as easy for Japan to follow suit with some of the other Far Eastern countries and provide corrupt documentation - but they don't have to. They, from what I understand, actually have been testing for several years for SVC,and areas of Japan are actually considered SVC free ZONES. Therefore, no matter who you buy from within these ZONES, they are able to be certified by a Vet designated by the Fisheries Ministry to be free of SVC. I believe I had heard something to the effect that the Aphis people consider Japan as one of the safest zones to allow fish into the US from. Anyone have any contradictory info? Like I said, I'm just repeating things I've heard and read from others. Mike

Mike
I believe your information is correct. We are just hearing a bunch of hot air.
He has stirred the pot with every post he has made. False statements he made regarding Burt Ballou, Steve Childers, just goes to show how accurate his information is. "Freedon of the Press"

[Nancy M.]

Quote: Originally Posted by koicluboftheair My point is Nancy I'm putting it on the calendar at http://koicluboftheair.org/calendar_news.html as: March 24 & 25 2007 ZNA SoCal show November 17 & 18 2007 Koi Kichi Club show Another few questions is the ZNA SoCal website at http://home.earthlink.net/~filmlabrat/? And for verification http://www.koikichi.org with the 2005 4th Annual Koi And Vendor Show flyer on the main page is where I should direct this link to?

We prefer you, to not mention anything regarding our club on your calendar.

[koiczar]

Right On Nancy!! Power to the KoiKichi!!

Mike

[koicluboftheair]

"Mouth of the ionosphere" and journalistic license? What license do you have or club do you represent for that matter sir? I've interviewed the APHIS PR mouthpiece. Trusted Drs. like Kathy Hartman are not allowed to speak to this issue in the media, but don't let me deter you from seeking the assurance you want.

Quote: Originally Posted by koiczar How many of you think that the Aphis program is aware of which countries are able to qualify to send their fish in our direction without proper testing. This is amazing. I had a feeling a few countries would try to illegally "sneak" fish through with phoney certification forms, but I really did think we'd have been smart enough to have all this figured out before hand, investigate and seize these shipments as they come through. Yeah, the "mouth of the ionosphere" has tried to taint everything and everyone(shows where journalistic license has gone). Personally, I think it would be just as easy for Japan to follow suit with some of the other Far Eastern countries and provide corrupt documentation - but they don't have to. They, from what I understand, actually have been testing for several years for SVC,and areas of Japan are actually considered SVC free ZONES. Therefore, no matter who you buy from within these ZONES, they are able to be certified by a Vet designated by the Fisheries Ministry to be free of SVC. I believe I had heard something to the effect that the Aphis people consider Japan as one of the safest zones to allow fish into the US from. Anyone have any contradictory info? Like I said, I'm just repeating things I've heard and read from others. Mike

[Nancy M.]

Quote: Originally Posted by koicluboftheair "Mouth of the ionosphere" and journalistic license? What license do you have or club do you represent for that matter sir? I've interviewed the APHIS PR mouthpiece. Trusted Drs. like Kathy Hartman are not allowed to speak to this issue in the media, but don't let me deter you from seeking the assurance you want.

Perhaps, you should contact the head "mouthpiece" Dr. Merrill

[koicluboftheair]

Was this a board decision or are you the board? And is this in part due to the website being in disarray? Heck I could have fixed it for you for free, but you speaking for the wishes of your entire organization know me to be evil and dangerous? lol! Yes, as your board followers say power to the koi kichi

Quote: Originally Posted by Nancy M. We prefer you, to not mention anything regarding our club on your calendar.

[koicluboftheair]

I've already gone through the appropriate channels as directed by staff per the policy of APHIS.

Quote: Originally Posted by Nancy M. Perhaps, you should contact the head "mouthpiece" Dr. Merrill

[mitten]

Breathing deeply, calmly. Blue ocean, blue ocean was quoted to me a while ago.

[KoiCop]

I think we've now arrived at the point where I need to paraphrase something my good friend, Merle, once wrote:

"If you don't love it, leave it!
Let this song I'm singin' be a warning.
If you're running down my koi board, man,
You're walking on the fightin' side of me."

Since you don't appear to want to dicsuss koi shows and show koi, the avowed purpose of this board (and our shared passion), I now strongly recommend you find another another audience-- one your bloviating style appeals to and your lack of journalistic verisimilitude doesn't dismay.

Sorry, John, but you and your partner, Todo, aren't in Kansas anymore. Best you click them Ruby heels 3 times. Don

[bekko]

The thing is, getting a legitimate health certificate is no harder and is probably cheaper than getting a fraudulent one. Any koi farm that has been exporting to the EU will have already jumped through all the hoops. It is only the new farm who does not have a track record that will have a problem and may have to resort to trickery.

The appropriate way to deal with a wayward journalist is to just refuse to patronize their publications and let your feeling be know to the powers-that-be. Money talks. Unfortunately, I dropped my KoiUSA subscription years ago and am not able to help in this regard.

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