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Old 01-02-2007   #21 (permalink)
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What's the difference between a ranchu and a lionhead? I'm trying to see it but just can't.

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Marie, Steve in my mentor on this one...

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Lionhead is the ancestral form and has a longer look to it. The lionhead has a dorsal contour that is relatively flat and the angle where it joins the tail is more than 90 degrees. The lionhead tail is like that of the fantail. The side-view ranchu is similar to the lionhead but has a much more curved dorsal contour, making an acute angle (less than 90 degrees) where it joins the upper lobe of the tail fin at the caudal peduncle. The ranchu tail is splayed sideways with the lower lobes sometimes lying almost horizontal. They also have something called a “lionchu” now.

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Thanks Steve for all the info...Plus it is hard to start digging through a tank for 50 or so looking for the right Ranchu..
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Stevie Hop, I think if you guys have a straight up goldfish show you will have many flock to the islands... AKCA was a blast I think we need a tropical vacation again..

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Checked out Hung Ming on Mission, the other is on Broadway! Cocoy picked the RARE black one? Yeah right! Baby size buger!
Damn, I want to roll to Hung Ming...I think me and Reuben might roll next week to go checkout the place... It is around the corner from my relatives house on Moscow...
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I am going to Hung Ming today.. But I think I am going to arrange a special shipment to me on some ranchu...
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Stevie Hop, I think if you guys have a straight up goldfish show you will have many flock to the islands... AKCA was a blast I think we need a tropical vacation again..

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That would be tight!!! I think a Goldfish Show would spurn more interest and hopefully later the interest will ride into a Koi Show... Plus, I dont think you would have any problems with people from the mainland checking it out...
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I am going to Hung Ming today.. But I think I am going to arrange a special shipment to me on some ranchu...
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That would be tight!!! I think a Goldfish Show would spurn more interest and hopefully later the interest will ride into a Koi Show... Plus, I dont think you would have any problems with people from the mainland checking it out...

The Koi and Goldfish show up in Portland every year is huge. They have a great turn out for goldfish and it is always fun, informative and very interesting.
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Lionhead is the ancestral form and has a longer look to it. The lionhead has a dorsal contour that is relatively flat and the angle where it joins the tail is more than 90 degrees. The lionhead tail is like that of the fantail. The side-view ranchu is similar to the lionhead but has a much more curved dorsal contour, making an acute angle (less than 90 degrees) where it joins the upper lobe of the tail fin at the caudal peduncle. The ranchu tail is splayed sideways with the lower lobes sometimes lying almost horizontal. They also have something called a “lionchu” now.

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I've always enjoyed the orandas and lionheads--my daughter used to have them. Ranchus are adorable! I can see the difference now. Thank you

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Tony, for side-view ranchu the first thing to look for is a nice smooth curve on the back. Its hard to get a smooth curve without lumps. The Chinese say that in side profile the back should have the shape of a pocket comb. That doesn't help us much because pocket combs in the west are straight instead of curved. Come to think of it, its been a while since I saw anyone carry a pocket comb of any shape. But, once you know what a Chinese pocket comb looks like you get the idea. Next look for a sharp angle where the tail fin meets the tail tube. It's preferably about 45-55 degrees. The back curve and the tail angle are sort of the same thing because if the back has a good curve then the peduncle will sort of point downward which makes the angle with the caudal fin sharper.

For top-view ranchu first look for a thick (wide) caudal peduncle (tail tube). Then look for a good tail shape. In a young fish the wen will not be fully developed so the front of the head may not yet have that squared-off look. Nisai and oya should have a squared-off head. Finally, look for a long body and small neatly-arranged scales down the back.

Joe, I would love to go to a goldfish show. However, I don't travel unless it's an emergency so they will have to have it here If we ever get our act together for a show, hopefully it will be koi and goldfish. I think Hawaii needs to have a koi and goldfish extravaganza which draws people from US, Japan, China, Thailand, etc. They do international conferences here with speakers from all over. Everyone in the audience gets a head-set with translation into their own language. Sort of a United Nations thing.

You can find some nice goldfish in local stores compared to what I saw on the east coast. It sounds like the west coast has a pretty good selection too.

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Joe, I would love to go to a goldfish show. However, I don't travel unless it's an emergency so they will have to have it here If we ever get our act together for a show, hopefully it will be koi and goldfish. I think Hawaii needs to have a koi and goldfish extravaganza which draws people from US, Japan, China, Thailand, etc. They do international conferences here with speakers from all over. Everyone in the audience gets a head-set with translation into their own language. Sort of a United Nations thing.



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That is what I mean St e vie hop, have it on the islands... I support I think most if your members know that...

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